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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: marmite monster on November 03, 2008, 01:14:11

Title: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: marmite monster on November 03, 2008, 01:14:11

was out bashing some fords today in the disco then all of a sudden the front right wheel sounded like it was full of gravel or somthing within 10miles of doing a 3ft ford the front wheel had locked solid and it was AA time!
will this happen alot when doing river crossings? or is it a case of it was all ready on the way out and i just finished it of with a load of pond water?

any tips on changing it?
si

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: chris9119 on November 03, 2008, 06:17:29

Sounds like poor maintenance to me. LR are designed to go through water and under normal conditions water, etc shouldn't get into the axles/bearings.

Are your breathers extended, but more importantly, clear.....

Also, your hub seals could be perished and letting water through.

Sounds as if you'll have to check all your bearings/hubs/breathers to ensure that they are in tip-top condition.

Where about's are you as you haven't completed your details fully?

There not that hard to do, if you have the tools, etc.....

Chris

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: solihull-mick on November 03, 2008, 09:04:53

Hi si, give me a bell sure we can sort you, got everything in stock if your stuck for parts

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: Disco Matt on November 03, 2008, 15:04:10

This shouldn't happen - it sounds more like a hub seal that has perished than water being sucked back into the breather.

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: CNorman on November 03, 2008, 20:11:59

I have had it happen to me to only i happened to be doing 60mph (on motorway of course), i was lucky to get away with it!

I know lots of people who it has happened to, lots.

I dont think that you can ever really seal it fully however without any lies once you have spent a day pulling the four apart you can easily strip and grease 4 in 2 hours with very very few tools!

Timken bearings can be bought for cheap as well, i would change mine every 1 year.

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: Disco-andy on November 03, 2008, 21:57:35

the first time I took my old 200 in to water the same happened the next day. Arr the memorys of doing my first wheel barring that was fun! I put it down to the breath being blocked (as it was) then the rapidly cooling axle sucking in , thus pulling water through the hub rather than the breather.
Good luck changing it hope it not to bad in there!

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: Les Henson on November 04, 2008, 02:56:03

A broken CV joint can jam the wheel. A badly worn wheel bearing will eventually break up - the inner race will friction weld itself to the stub axle, but the wheel will still turn. If the wheel bearing had broken up, then the wheel itself would be very wobbly/at an angle, whereas a broken CV joint only affects drive, so the wheel will appear ok still.
300TDi Disco CV joint - slightly worn :) - The bits jammed-up inside the swivel and locked the wheel.


Les.

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: marmite monster on November 09, 2008, 15:59:10

well me and les batty changed it today in the rain huummm fun! had a bit of trouble getting the old bearing of the shaft because they had spun a bit and slightly pitted it but some filing sorted that out and hopfully it will be ok.took about 2.5 hours :(

thanks jase and ned for helping 1 down 3 to go !:)

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 09, 2008, 16:28:11

LR are designed for occoasional fording, any continued use and you should be striping the bearings and greasing them, plus changing the gearbox oils more regularly (the bearings should be done periodically like the gearbox).

It's another reason why I don't drive through anything deeper than I really have to.

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: marmite monster on November 09, 2008, 17:05:56

yeah but its fun though :twisted:

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: les baty on November 09, 2008, 19:53:52

Mr Marmite,
You really must be more enthusiastic about vehicle maintenance!  I change my bearings once a year or every 12 months, whichever is soonest  :lol:

Cheers for the tea, but as Karen stated previously, productivity is normally raised the more tea is consumed!!!  :roll:

Just checked the bible, we did put it back together in the right order (were damn good we are!!!)   :clap: :clap: :clap:


Les Baty

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: marmite monster on November 09, 2008, 23:27:35

ha ha! yeah got there in the end!! just got a pallet of wheel bearings and im going to change them once a week just to be safe!

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: les baty on November 10, 2008, 19:20:31

Im gonna take all my wheel bearings out cos they only cause problems and put poly bushes in their. ( what ever they are ) and hope for the best

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: marmite monster on November 11, 2008, 00:53:48

yeah think they would better jase ive heard the yellow ones are the best but dont quote me on that!

Title: Re: wheel bearing lock up!
Post by: stuntman on November 12, 2008, 11:22:37

On the bearing side of things why not look for specialist application fully sealed, high temp bearings etc?

I work in the engineering supply trade and I'll be looking at trying to upgrade mine when I get around to doing my axles.  :afro: