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Title: Martial arts
Post by: Banjo on November 24, 2008, 12:24:30
Anyone into it  ? . My 2  kids ( 8 add 14 ) are interested in taking up some form of it but not sure which , any advise / thoughts. :)
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: wormster on November 24, 2008, 13:08:23
Judo or Tai Chi

both teach discapline and control.

I have to say that out of the 2 I prefer Tai chi, its the basis for all other martial arts.
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: karlo on November 24, 2008, 14:02:50
Both mine 6 & 12 do Taekwondo.

All martial arts teach discipline and control.


Its not a cheap hobby, mine do 3 monthly gradings until they get to blue belt then it goes to 6 months, £35 for a uniform, £20 for an annual licence, £25 per grading and £5 per lesson some places are cheaper than others.

Not all kids take to martial arts and it tends to be short lived my lads next belt is Black (grading costing over £100), which to be honest I never thought it would last but they both love it.
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: Sider on November 24, 2008, 21:24:34
For children that young, I would advise Judo or Karate-do. When they are a bit more confident, and if they are still eager, taekwondo or Jiu-Jitsu are good sports.
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 25, 2008, 11:28:08
I did Ju-jitsu when I was young, then I went onto Wadokai, I learned more in a few months of Wadokai than I did in years of Ju-Jitsu.  Whether that was down to the Sensei or not??
All form of Martial Arts should be about control and discipline.

This shows just how disciplined

Type 'chav gets decked' into youtube.

Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: stuntman on November 25, 2008, 12:16:03
Yup

Full contact GOJO KAI and Sports Karate, the basis for cage fighting.

I'd recomend any of the traditional martial arts (judo, shotokan, wado, etc) for teaching disciplin, stay away from kick boxing or maui tai for the younger ones. Trust me broken bones as a kid are cool, but when you're 26 with lots of Dan's and black belts, it doesn't make up for the arthritus  :(

But finding a good club is the most important thing you can do, and make sure you  get insurance, most clubs will offer it to new students after about the 2nd or 3rd lesson.

Best of luck with it.

Andi
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: littlepow on November 27, 2008, 19:43:44
Used to assist with teaching Ju-jitsu to kids, best advice is go along to the training centres and have a look at what they do.
Take the kids and see if it is what they were expecting. Have a word with the other parents and the Sensi, to find out iit will suit your kids.
You will usually get a couple of free sessions to see if it is what they want to do and to see if they enjoy it.

Doesn't matter which you do at the young age, as there will be little of the aggressive style contact you may see older students using.

Don't forget you can go to the adult classes and have fun too!
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: lee celtic on November 27, 2008, 21:18:05
Both my sons did Traditional Karate , eldest son got two out of the three tests done for black belt at 13 then dicovered girls and gave up  :lol: :lol:

youngest got to his fifth belt but gave up when his brother left  :(

still they both learned to be respectful and polite , and look after themselves  ;)

I would definatly recommed it...
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: Biodiesel-Bev on November 29, 2008, 19:53:35
My eldest son has just turned 6 years old and has been doing Karate since he was 4.  He's now a yellow belt, and estimated to get his black belt when he's 7.

He absolutely loves it and goes to 8 classes a week!  (He'd go to more if there were more hours in the day!)

He goes to Colne Valley Black Belt Academy, Huddersfield, were we pay £35 per month, and he can go to as many classes as he wants.

He also does Eskrima (stick fighting), XMA (extreme martial arts) and Sparring.

I can't recommend it highly enough, they teach discipline and respect, and have to learn the Student Creed, all about using their Karate skills for self defence, to respect others and to look after their own physical and mental health.

My 2 year old loves watching his brother, and can't wait to start going when he is 4 years old.

Worth every penny!
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: old joe on November 29, 2008, 21:58:29
i trained with the Realistic Self Defence association in MK
thye were excellent i had to give due to my back going and the mony situation i'm now looking at going back when the mony sitiuation improves i miss it a great deal :lol:


http://www.rsda.org.uk/

Dazza
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: lee celtic on November 29, 2008, 22:58:26
My Youngest lad has just had a one day suspension from school for fighting ........

He intervined in a fight between two brothers one 11 and one 14 ......

the next day the 14 year old turned up at school with a load of mates and threatened my son because he'd stopped the fight the day before ....

my son was attacked by the 14 year old but due to training floored him with the first punch.....

the teacher at the school said ... and I quote.....

if the lads eye haddn't closed up I wouldn't have suspended your son but he hit him so hard I had too .....

the other lad got a three day ban......for starting it...... though my lad finished it... ;)

training the kids was well worth it..... :D

ps my lad is 12....and because he broke his arm in feb and had pins put in he hit the other lad with his left ......he's right handed ,,, god knows how much damage he would have done with his right......
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: littlepow on November 30, 2008, 10:20:21
My Youngest lad has just had a one day suspension from school for fighting ........

He intervined in a fight between two brothers one 11 and one 14 ......

the next day the 14 year old turned up at school with a load of mates and threatened my son because he'd stopped the fight the day before ....

my son was attacked by the 14 year old but due to training floored him with the first punch.....

the teacher at the school said ... and I quote.....

if the lads eye haddn't closed up I wouldn't have suspended your son but he hit him so hard I had too .....

the other lad got a three day ban......for starting it...... though my lad finished it... ;)

training the kids was well worth it..... :D

ps my lad is 12....and because he broke his arm in feb and had pins put in he hit the other lad with his left ......he's right handed ,,, god knows how much damage he would have done with his right......

I think I would be going back to the school and demanding why my child was able to get into such a situation. What where the teachers that are suppose to be supervising actually doing and why he is being punished for defending himself.

Fighting is bad!
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: Banjo on December 09, 2008, 14:35:23
Thanks for the replies,   there's someone in the nearest town who teaches " various forms " does this sound right or a bit of a jack of all trades...
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: littlepow on December 09, 2008, 20:29:34
A lot of mixed martial arts trainers are popping up, they should have a background in martial arts, but usual they have found that they are not learning what they want from a single discipline. But This is not necessary a bad thing, as most martial arts are an adapted/modified version of another form.
Still best to go along and have a look, they shouldn't mind unless they have something to hide.
Title: Re: Martial arts
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 11, 2008, 14:28:21
the most effective forms for self defence are the ones that have a practical application, whilst the ufc (ie mma) has its detractors, the whole point of it was to see which were the most effective martial arts in a real application (ie not just in doin 'forms' or 'katas'), its safe to say that the predominant fighting styles that have emerged, they are:

Brazilian Ju Jitsu - great for one on one but not much good on the street where someones mate will stomp on your head whilst u try and get an armbar,

Wrestling - has the problem of missing striking skills but is great for strength and conditioning

Muay Thai (thai boxing) - which is my choice for my boys, it teaches strikes with the fist, shin, knee and elbow, all the strikes are used to cause damage, not score points, there is also an element of grappling because clinch work is allowed so it teaches u how to control an opponent up close (more 'street' realistic)

What u really wanna avoid are the mcdojo that dishes out belts like confetti but has NO contact, what is the bloody point of that?

Ps. I have trained for 12 yrs in thai boxing and fought semi-pro, and no athritus yet, because its an all round fight trainin it builds core strength and so protects you

all IMHO
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