Mud-club
Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: henryandlesley on January 01, 2009, 17:58:31
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Hi I bought my landy in Nov 08 with mot till jan and taxed till the end of the year, the main issue is when my wife went to tax it yesturday newyears eve the post office said that there is a break from when it was last taxed so she said no there is not as the tax runs out to night and been new years day in the morning you wont be open to re tax it she was advised to ring dvla which i done to find out that the numbers on top of the old tax disc was not on there system and i will be liable for back duty till the last tax in nov 07 but they have asked me to send them a photo copy of the old tax disc'c which i am doing in the morning but my main thing is as i was on the under standing that the tax on the truck was valid till the end of the year and now found out it wasnt who is liable me or the last owner and if it is me what can i do about it as it was not me who put the last tax on many thanks henry
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If the tax disc states on it that it ends 31/12/08 then its the previous owner.
You werent liable for the tax when it was last due as you were not the registered keeper.
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Sounds to me that the tax disc was not valid when it was sold to you, one can check on the DVLA I do on any car I plan to purchase and have found the odd one not legal.
You might be liable for Tax and any fine from when you re registed it
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If the tax disc states on it that it ends 31/12/08 then its the previous owner.
You werent liable for the tax when it was last due as you were not the registered keeper.
Agreed, but you may well find you're liable of any outstanding tax since you became the registered keeper.
So in your case that'll be two months worth.
I fell into a similar trap when I bought a Disco about a year ago and was told it was on a SORN as it needed work before I could MOT it. Once MOT'ed I went to get the tax and got the same thing you did, it wasn't on a SORN. I had to pay the outstanding tax on it but I was only liable for the amount since I became the registered keeper.
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As the owner of the car you will be lible for the back dated tax from the date you got it. But what is wrong with the tax that was on it?
Paul
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Sounds like it could have a fake/Stolen tax disc on it.
As what Paul said he is right.
I would be talking to the DVLA if I was you.
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What's a Mud Club Plob?
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lol think henry meant plod!
and he did call the dvla who said it was not taxed and hadn't been since nov 07
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I'd agree with Boggert. Sounds like you have a 'bent' disc. You've done the right thing by contacting DVLA. I'd let them have all the details of who you bought the car from, and a copy of any adverts the person has put out. They can then sort the problem.
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i had this b4 when previous keeper had paided for his tax by a cheque an the cheque bounced i didnt know this soon did when i got stopped sayin i had no tax on car took me a while to sort it all out an in the end dvla sent all the bills to previous owner
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when i spoke to dvla they told me that the numbers on the tax do not match there system and they never issued that number so if i am held liable can i take the last owner to court for it as i bought it with the understanding that it had 2 mths of tax on it
One its proving it, two its costly and three is it worth it.
Bounced cheque is common one, I've heard the PO might stop taking cheques and in future only allow debit/credit cards, or cash.
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Just keep all the evidence you have, you did right getting the DVLA involved and hopefully commomn sense will reign. Afetr all if you can't rust the disk in the windscreen what is the point in issuing them? the police use the PNC anyway which tells them whether or not you're insured and taxed.
Unfortunately I think you'll be paying the back tax on the last 2 months, they won't let you have it free. I'd double check that MOT too 8-[
It does prove what a useless system they have, any car that's SORNed looses the status when it's sold and has to be taxed or SORNed by the new owner, so if there was an issue with the tax why didn't they contact you when you registered it?
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Personally I would look up and visit the local DVLA office;talk to them there and show them all the evidence; hopefully they will be very interested.
Also you are talking of a sum of money that is well within the limits for the small claims court; if you can prove that the advert was false and that the disk was false then its not expensive through small claims and if you win (which you should) then you get the fees back from the other party anyway.
I would still visit DVLA as it coule be a genuine mistake still.
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If I bought a car from a garage that hadn’t been taxed for a few months while is was for sale, then would I be liable for the missing months would I? :shock:
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No, you're only liable from the date that you become the registered keeper, the day you paid for it. ;)
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I would just pay the missing two months, but we really need to know what the disc has on it.
I managed to tax a car not registered in the uk ( it was registered in Northern Ireland ( on English plates)the dealer we bought it from didnt have a clue the log book is almost identical this was only noticed when we tried to put a private plate on it )the local post office sold me a tax disc no problem the DVLA are amazed, but these things happen. We then had to do all the paper work to Import the car and register it in the UK, ( yes I know NI is in the UK) it was just a massive paper trail, the best bit is it was new in England when it was a few years old it went to Northern Ireland but still had the English plates on, so I had to re register an english plated car in England ??????
Oh and the Fee..... it was free!
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Hi Henry.
Have you asked the previous owner about it? He struck me as a respectable family man and he carried his newborn in the car. How long did the previous owner have the car?
As mentioned above there is a free DVLA check you can do on any vehicle to see what records are held, go to this page and click Vehicle Enquiry.
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/
Then you can put in the reg number and make to get the records.
DVLA are well known for being totally inept so it could also be an admin error.
Good luck, Dan
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So have you paid for a year's tax then Henry?
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Another bent postmaster,we had one at our local post office doing the same on the ay diddle diddle, he was caught and jailed ..........................They should have then sent him home....get the direction I'm coming from... :-k :roll: :lol:
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Thank you for that Henry, I feel alot better now, knowing what I said was the truth.
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8 months ago we changed car for SWMBO and arranged for garage to swap over private reg plate.
As part of the deal they added 6 months tax
2 months ago as tax was due I tried to tax it online but it refused to take details, asking me to call DVLA
Next day I called and was informed the vehicle was not taxed for previous 6 months :shock: and that I was liable for any associated costs.
The tax disc and change of registration was all done at a local DVLA office.
They took all details from 'old' tax disc informing me that they would investigate.
To date I have not heard from them.