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Title: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 08, 2009, 11:07:48
Following on from this thread (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,67433.0.html)......

I need to collect a second hand car which my parents have bought.  I need to get the train to where it is then drive it to my folks (then train home).  The car has the V5 present, and is MOTed but is currently SORNed.

My folks will get it insured, and I will have the cover note with me.  What do I need to do to get tax for it on the day I collect it?  Can I go into the local Post Office with the MOT, V5, insurance and payment or do I need anything else?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: L90OOK on January 08, 2009, 11:54:30
Yep, should just need the mot & V5, they will post the change of address for you, & valid Insurance cover note or Certificate.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 08, 2009, 16:26:23
OK, thanks!
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Bobtail on January 08, 2009, 17:18:49
Following on from this thread (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,67433.0.html)......

I need to collect a second hand car which my parents have bought.  I need to get the train to where it is then drive it to my folks (then train home).  The car has the V5 present, and is MOTed but is currently SORNed.

My folks will get it insured, and I will have the cover note with me.  What do I need to do to get tax for it on the day I collect it?  Can I go into the local Post Office with the MOT, V5, insurance and payment or do I need anything else?

Thanks!

If you insure it before the day you pick it up you could also tax it on line
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 09, 2009, 09:32:40
If you insure it before the day you pick it up you could also tax it on line

...but.....

I need to get the train to where it is then drive it to my folks

...I need the tax disk to put in the windscreen to drive it home.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: 300TDi Disco on January 09, 2009, 16:50:51
Get a trailor mate, then you can deal with the tax etc after..
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: ChrisW70 on January 09, 2009, 17:13:50
Can you take a trailer on a train?  :grin:  :doh:
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: discowoman on January 09, 2009, 17:50:22
If you insure it before the day you pick it up you could also tax it on line

...but.....

I need to get the train to where it is then drive it to my folks

...I need the tax disk to put in the windscreen to drive it home.
And the tax disc will go to the previous owner....
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hrh_dave on January 09, 2009, 21:04:24
Just been trying to tax a sorn'd vehicle and due to the move we have lost the documents etc.... When I called the DVLA about it to see if I could tax it online... I was told that I would not be able to drive the car on the road for 5 days even if the tax disc arrived before the 5 days were up.... Needless to say I will paying them 25 for replacement documents and taxing it at the postoffice...
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 11, 2009, 01:04:50
If you tax a SORNed car you can't do it online, I've tried.  As far as I'm concerned though if the tax is payed, I'm driving it.  You can only tax a SORNed car on the last day of the month, or pay for the whole of the current month.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 11, 2009, 08:28:22
OK thanks, but I can walk into the local Post Office with V5/insurance/MOT/payment and walk out with a tax disk though, can't I?
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: L90OOK on January 11, 2009, 08:38:01
OK thanks, but I can walk into the local Post Office with V5/insurance/MOT/payment and walk out with a tax disk though, can't I?
Yup  :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hairyasswelder on January 11, 2009, 12:18:42
OK thanks, but I can walk into the local Post Office with V5/insurance/MOT/payment and walk out with a tax disk though, can't I?

Far as I remember you need to fill in a short form and thats it, job done  ;)
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: jjsaul on January 11, 2009, 14:01:17
Do you not get 14 days grace to tax a car now???
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Yoshi on January 11, 2009, 16:25:37
If you tax a SORNed car you can't do it online, I've tried.  As far as I'm concerned though if the tax is payed, I'm driving it.  You can only tax a SORNed car on the last day of the month, or pay for the whole of the current month.

28th of the Month you can tax it to start the beginning of the next month, or at least thats what she says in the post office when i buy untaxed cars!
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: landroverkeith on January 11, 2009, 16:32:10
If you tax a SORNed car you can't do it online, I've tried.  As far as I'm concerned though if the tax is payed, I'm driving it.  You can only tax a SORNed car on the last day of the month, or pay for the whole of the current month.

28th of the Month you can tax it to start the beginning of the next month, or at least thats what she says in the post office when i buy untaxed cars!

your name must be mud at the dvla dan you must give em 75% of their work with the new landy u buy every other week lol
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 12, 2009, 08:00:18
OK thanks, but I can walk into the local Post Office with V5/insurance/MOT/payment and walk out with a tax disk though, can't I?
Yup  :roll: :lol:

Actually, I'll correct myself: you don't need to take the MOT with you any more because it is all on the computer.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hairyasswelder on January 12, 2009, 19:26:07
OK thanks, but I can walk into the local Post Office with V5/insurance/MOT/payment and walk out with a tax disk though, can't I?
Yup  :roll: :lol:

Actually, I'll correct myself: you don't need to take the MOT with you any more because it is all on the computer.

The post office dont have access to the computter..... you need the mot  ;) you were right first time  :-#

Ask me how I know  :oops:

If you tax online you get 5 days allowed for postage where you dont have to display the disc, but as said, the disc is sent to the current registered keeper
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 12, 2009, 20:08:57
How do you know?  :D

I taxed my Disco a couple of weeks ago, and I asked them (main PO in my local town) and they told me I didn't need to produce the actual MOT as it was all on computer...................... :huh:
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hairyasswelder on January 12, 2009, 21:04:42
How do you know?  :D

Well as you ask...... ;)

Went to Dudley after christmas to see Jess mum & dad, took money, mot and reminder to tax the van........ forgot insurance  :doh: so enquired if I could still tax it with them using computer........  :doh: no, we dont have access.
Another person in the queue had got the emissions readout instead of the mot and were told the same... NO..... :doh:

Rang DVLA and they say OK, when I queery the displaying disc laws they tell me that there has been an ammendment to allow 5 days for postage with exemption from having to display.  Good job as i was 70 miles from home on New Years Eve  [-o<

Steve
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 19, 2009, 10:19:01
Just to drag this up.............

I am collecting the car on Thursday, and it has ben sold to me as SORNed.  However, I looked at the DVLA website last night and it said:

Date of Liability 01 12 2009
Date of First Registration 11 03 2002
Year of Manufacture 2002
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1587CC
CO2 Emissions 185g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status SORN Not Due

What does that mean please?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 19, 2009, 11:29:36
OK, ignore that post: it means it is SORNed until December this year.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hairyasswelder on January 19, 2009, 19:36:39
OK, ignore that post: it means it is SORNed until December this year.

NOOOO DVLA TRAP............ AS SOON AS YOU GET THE V5 IN YOUR NAME RING THE DVLA AND SORN IT.
They got me with a scrap rangie that was sorn when I bought it  :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Gordo on January 19, 2009, 21:01:17
Do you not get 14 days grace to tax a car now???

Officially, no. It's an offence to use a vehicle on the road without displaying a valid tax disc.

In practice, they send the fines for not re-taxing or declaring SORN six weeks after the tax expires.

However, if you're stopped by the Police and the vehicle is untaxed or, worse still, SORN'd then you could be in trouble. ANPR cameras are becoming more common.

You can drive an un-taxed and/or un-MOTed vehicle to/from a pre-booked MOT test or for pre-booked repairs only.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 22, 2009, 03:02:47
There's no such thing as an MOT on demand anymore anyway, probably to stop people saying they were on their way.  The MOT has to be booked in before it can be started and the DVLA know straight away, the police can also see what your car failed for.

Big brother is watching you ;)
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Sider on January 22, 2009, 07:37:55
There's no such thing as an MOT on demand anymore anyway, probably to stop people saying they were on their way.  The MOT has to be booked in before it can be started and the DVLA know straight away, the police can also see what your car failed for.

Big brother is watching you ;)

Actually, the garage up the road from us still does "on demand" MOT tests. Reason I know, I took a friends car yesterday, without booking.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hrh_dave on January 22, 2009, 08:01:26
Do you not get 14 days grace to tax a car now???

Officially, no. It's an offence to use a vehicle on the road without displaying a valid tax disc.

In practice, they send the fines for not re-taxing or declaring SORN six weeks after the tax expires.

However, if you're stopped by the Police and the vehicle is untaxed or, worse still, SORN'd then you could be in trouble. ANPR cameras are becoming more common.

You can drive an un-taxed and/or un-MOTed vehicle to/from a pre-booked MOT test or for pre-booked repairs only.

Can you drive it to a "local" DVLA office for taxing purpose??? Not that ours is very local, being 46miles away and I cant tax at a post office as I've lost my V5 and changed my address......
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: sv130 on January 22, 2009, 08:08:09
How do you know?  :D

Well as you ask...... ;)

Went to Dudley after christmas to see Jess mum & dad, took money, mot and reminder to tax the van........ forgot insurance  :doh: so enquired if I could still tax it with them using computer........  :doh: no, we dont have access.
Another person in the queue had got the emissions readout instead of the mot and were told the same... NO..... :doh:

Rang DVLA and they say OK, when I queery the displaying disc laws they tell me that there has been an ammendment to allow 5 days for postage with exemption from having to display.  Good job as i was 70 miles from home on New Years Eve  [-o<

Steve

  Dudley post office are a waste of space.. I took my reminder there to tax my truck, after queuing for thirty minutes they wanted the mot cert.
 Fuming like a train I went home and phoned DVLA,  guess what.. go on guess.. they don,t need the mot its online for them...
  Chap said I should complain to head post master.
  I just went to Stourbridge  and taxed it there  no problem.  
   I think Dudley post office employ brain donors    
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: JumboBeef on January 22, 2009, 08:22:35
Fuming like a train I went home and phoned DVLA,  guess what.. go on guess.. they don,t need the mot its online for them...

That what I said up there! ^^^

I taxed my Disco a couple of weeks ago, and I asked them (main PO in my local town) and they told me I didn't need to produce the actual MOT as it was all on computer...................... :huh:
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Gordo on January 22, 2009, 19:20:18

Can you drive it to a "local" DVLA office for taxing purpose??? Not that ours is very local, being 46miles away and I cant tax at a post office as I've lost my V5 and changed my address......

No, because DVLA local offices do not do tax disc renewals.

However, if you need a DVLA inspection (e.g. for an imported vehicle) then yes you can - providing the inspection is pre-booked (which it will be). A friend of mine quite legally drove to the Oxford VRO with no tax, MOT or registration plates - but he had insurance.
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hrh_dave on January 22, 2009, 19:33:27

Can you drive it to a "local" DVLA office for taxing purpose??? Not that ours is very local, being 46miles away and I cant tax at a post office as I've lost my V5 and changed my address......

No, because DVLA local offices do not do tax disc renewals.

However, if you need a DVLA inspection (e.g. for an imported vehicle) then yes you can - providing the inspection is pre-booked (which it will be). A friend of mine quite legally drove to the Oxford VRO with no tax, MOT or registration plates - but he had insurance.


Local offices do tax disc renewals, as that is where I was told by the DVLA to send the forms to...... And Ive used one in Edinburgh before when Ive had to change tax class and get a disc at the same time.......
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: Gordo on January 22, 2009, 19:49:41
Local offices do tax disc renewals, as that is where I was told by the DVLA to send the forms to...... And Ive used one in Edinburgh before when Ive had to change tax class and get a disc at the same time.......

That's changed then - last time I was passing and dropped in they couldn't do it and pointed me to the Post Office instead  :?
Title: Re: Taxing a SORNed motor
Post by: hairyasswelder on January 22, 2009, 19:50:57

However, if you need a DVLA inspection (e.g. for an imported vehicle) then yes you can - providing the inspection is pre-booked (which it will be). A friend of mine quite legally drove to the Oxford VRO with no tax, MOT or registration plates - but he had insurance.

Depends on what inspection it needs.  Read the small print on the appointment lettter.  Mine stated if no tax/mot and was not carried (trailer or transporter) or display trade plates, the ttest would be refused  :shock: :shock:
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