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Title: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: clbarclay on February 09, 2009, 11:16:04
How much preperation do you put into getting your vehicles just the way you want them?

Caution very very very picture heavy link.
http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f47/astra-nurburgring-vxr-3-month-detail-5030.html

So who will be the first to do that to a discovery?
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Drift on February 09, 2009, 12:29:58
 :shock: far far to anal for me  :roll:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Dave123 on February 09, 2009, 14:27:21
 I have seen this before, at first I thought it was extremely anal but if you look at what he is actually doing and how much work he's putting into this supposed 'perfection', His attention to detail is really quite astounding and the craftmanship is simply amazing!
 
When you think about it, if he was doing this amount of detail work in modifying a 4x4 I think we would be quite stunned at the outcome, It's just that he's making the his perfect car in the same way that we try to make our 4x4's as good as we can! So I say fair play to him for really putting in the hours for his self that most people won't notice!  :clap:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: carbore on February 09, 2009, 15:28:18
Each to thier own but I dont like it.

Good craftsmanship aside its just a lot of bolt on bling that detracts from the performence of the car. God knows how much all that dynamat and ICE weighs.

Also if you are going to those lengths to make a cover for the filter housing why not make a filter housing rather than something to go over the pastic one. PS metal filler cover weigh more than plastic and tend to vibrate lose.

Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: biggerlandy on February 09, 2009, 18:36:54
its a vauxhaull why bother when the money spent could buy summit better  than just a vaux
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 09, 2009, 18:51:33
Lordy, I got about halfway through before I decided to chew my own leg off out of boredom.  The only thing I could think of was "what a selfish t**t", all that mess he made in the street for his neighbours to deal with.  OWuld have served him right if one of us had driven past and he had to start all over again :lol:

It's a vauxhall, last one I had I parked outside someone else's house and pretended it wasn't mine ;)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: datalas on February 09, 2009, 20:39:18
All that work and he's left with a white vauxhall...

The mind boggles
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Gordo on February 09, 2009, 21:16:17
Can you imagine what that guy must be like at parties?  =;

I like what I'm driving / riding to be clean, but I do not spend hours days polishing - after all, they're going to be playing in the mud!

(Although having said that, having had the paintwork on the Freelander scratched and scraped by one of those hand car wash places, it does need some attention - it looks dreadful when the sun's on it.)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: crazymac on February 09, 2009, 21:56:11
Seen that link a while back, FAR to anal for me, bet he's not got a girlfriend and his right bicep is MUCH bigger than his left :twisted:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: burgerman on February 09, 2009, 22:10:52
ONE LIFE _ GET ONE  :lol:  :lol:

     Hats off to the guy for his persistance though


  P.S i did notice his tax disc was crooked though  :shock: :lol:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: defuzz on February 09, 2009, 23:01:45
i think when you find yourself polishing jubilee clips and washing your car every other day, you need some psychiatric help....
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Drift on February 09, 2009, 23:27:39
Its taking " wax on wax off " a bit to the extreme  " Karate kid 8 " coming to a street near you  :grin:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: lee celtic on February 09, 2009, 23:30:53
two words.....................


WOW............................




SAD..................




wow for the amount of work and detail.....Sad that it's all a waste of time ........and sad repeated for the photo of his and his mates cars all the same parked outside the house  :roll: :roll: ,



 Looked like the village of the dammed with cars instead of kids  :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 10, 2009, 00:06:34
As said, way too anal. The guy needs a woman, fast.  Trouble is even if he gets invited to parties what does that car say about him? he's not likely to attract anyone is he?
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Vicarious on February 10, 2009, 01:05:05
Extraordinary - I think thats why people have kids, this kind of behaviour becomes untenable - they gradually ease the will out of you
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: clbarclay on February 10, 2009, 01:43:58
The guy needs a woman, fast.

If thats what he does with cars then goodness only knows what he would do to a woman, probably just the best mancure she ever had.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: datalas on February 10, 2009, 08:30:18
I suspect that the author has a form of mild OCD, if you read the interspersed text you can see that he'd be "bugged" by knowing that there was scuffed paint under the door panels, or marker pen on the interior paintwork.  Likelyhood is that he simply cannot help being that anal :(
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Jimbo on February 10, 2009, 08:46:43

Quote from the webpage:

Quote
Now the car was ready for washing...I decided to wash in pure reverse osmosis water zero ppm in the dunk bucket and 50/50 pure and hot water in the shampoo bucket...Shampoo used to day is Chemical Guys Maxi Suds II and a pure sheepskin wash mitt which i thought id try after over a year using a special silicone free sponge and obviously grit guards in both buckets...Wheel brushed used are my 2" , 1.5" and 1" sheepskin drumsticks..

OCD or what !!!

This guy would freak if he saw how I washed my trucks - jetwash, builders bucket of hot water with a squirt or two of some cleaning stuff I got free off a mate, sponge that the dog likes to drag around the garden, followed by a final squirt with the jet wash, and then leave it all to dry in the sun............yes, I said in the sun - that's how often I wash my motors (not !)


Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: muddysteve on February 10, 2009, 09:48:36
that is completely insane, still a white vaux at the end of it  :rolleyes:

thats one you'd love to see behind you when driving back from a p+p day  [-o<
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: crazymac on February 10, 2009, 10:19:26
that is completely insane, still a white vaux at the end of it  :rolleyes:

thats one you'd love to see behind you when driving back from a p+p day  [-o<

Pay and play? I'd love to drive past it through a big puddle!! Sploosh!!!
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: waveydavey on February 10, 2009, 13:01:03
OK two questions:
Where do you get Reverse Osmosis water from at home?

What the hell is a grit guard in a  bucket???
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Gordo on February 10, 2009, 13:19:47
If thats what he does with cars then goodness only knows what he would do to a woman, probably just the best mancure she ever had.

 :lol: ROFPMSL

But would he clean under her trim?  :shocked:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Tel on February 10, 2009, 15:16:10
am i the only one thinking this is all abit OCD
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: old joe on February 10, 2009, 15:40:25
each to there own but yes would look nice under the fat landie!!!!!!

http://www.monster-events.co.uk/Truck%20Hire.htm

Dazza
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Blue72 on February 10, 2009, 19:04:06
waster...you buy a car to enjoy...that is OCD and is wrong.........
to the normal person, his sat next to another would look the same!
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: hairyasswelder on February 10, 2009, 19:11:29
total waste of time..... washing a car with gallons of mineral water........ he has took longer to take who knows how many pics than I take in a year to wash my 4 vehicles  :roll: :roll: :roll:

Bet the lads down the pub and at work love his tales of what he did over the weekend  :? :? :? bet he walks to work too.......
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Dave on February 10, 2009, 19:13:12
Cool very nice work.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: carbore on February 11, 2009, 15:26:29
I don't think he'd like my Elise right now

(http://1.2.3.10/bmi/www.mud-club.com/galleries/galleryimages/1234365887-9937-Kittymonk%20and%20stuff%20025.jpg)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: discowoman on February 11, 2009, 17:02:21
GET A LIFE!!!

O.M.G. what a pratt..the guys at his local 'car emporium' must love him, "Oh look its that Anal idiot - lets sell him this polish we've had lying around for years.."
£10,000 for Carnuba wax  :shock: Jeez - I could get it for £100 for a kilo when I was working in the valeting trade - and that wasnt the cheap stuff either...and as for the 'spatter' being enough for him to reject the car - LOL love to be there when he tried it  :lol:, and as for using a machine mop on new paint to remove blemishes-talk about arse backwards!!!! :-.
I especially love the fact he's made a great point of buying a limited edition, then removed most of the parts that make it a Ltd edition!!!! And getting the wheels painted because they took 90 mins to clean AFTER EACH DRIVE [Edited] does he actually drive the thing???
Must stop now as I feel swear words coming on..


Does anyone have this guys email address???? :twisted:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: zulublue on February 11, 2009, 19:28:54
If i lived next door I would take up pigeon racing, plop plop  [-o<

Great detail to be fair but way way over the top, I could only get to the bottom of page 1.

Could you imagine him coming in to your garage to have a puncture repaired or something, I would run a mile - if I could 8-[
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: dreadnought110 on February 11, 2009, 21:30:31
OH MY GOD!! how would you hate to be a mechanic at where he takes it for a service!! mind you how tempting would it be to loosen an oil pipe?? :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Chris Putt on February 11, 2009, 22:39:01
What an utter looser. Do you think he plays with his car to try and impress women? Or maybe he just has no friends, and therefore nothing better to do (chicken and egg?).

I bet he would be a really really exciting person to have a beverage with.

Its not like its even a particularly good car to start with, I could almost understand some of that being done to a classic, that is actually going to worth real money in the future, but an Astra? Its just a poxy Astra.

Well done whoever you are, you have a very clean Astra, that looks like you have had an accident involving the 'Ripspeed' (see: Useless tat) stand at Halfords. Its not as if VXR is even a real tuning arm- they aren't even in the same ballpark the BMW M// division, AAchen Schnitzer, Brabus, Carlsson, HF etc etc.

If someone has STEVOV8i's address they ought to forward this to him, they might get on really well, they both seem to like pointless tat and presumably lack social interaction skills?
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Red on February 11, 2009, 23:10:39
I think he was still washing it in what looked like shaving foam when my brain started to melt and I gave up.  What the hell is Reverse Osmosis water anyway (Please don't answer that, you will be mistaking me for someone who gives a monkey's).

Someone definitely needs to get out more.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: laser_jock99 on February 11, 2009, 23:14:00
There's a fine line between 'hobby' & mental illness.........
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 11, 2009, 23:55:43
There's a fine line between 'hobby' & mental illness.........

There was a fine line, this nutter has polished it out :lol:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 12, 2009, 00:02:10

This guy would freak if he saw how I washed my trucks - jetwash, builders bucket of hot water with a squirt or two of some cleaning stuff I got free off a mate, sponge that the dog likes to drag around the garden, followed by a final squirt with the jet wash, and then leave it all to dry in the sun............yes, I said in the sun - that's how often I wash my motors (not !)


I "cleaned" Blue by pushing the snow off it with a brush.

Mind you, with this guys compunction to polish, I'd be tempted to park my White RS outside his house for a few hours.  Call it occupational therapy ;)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: discowoman on February 12, 2009, 14:57:43

This guy would freak if he saw how I washed my trucks - jetwash, builders bucket of hot water with a squirt or two of some cleaning stuff I got free off a mate, sponge that the dog likes to drag around the garden, followed by a final squirt with the jet wash, and then leave it all to dry in the sun............yes, I said in the sun - that's how often I wash my motors (not !)


I "cleaned" Blue by pushing the snow off it with a brush.

Mind you, with this guys compunction to polish, I'd be tempted to park my White RS outside his house for a few hours.  Call it occupational therapy ;)
Could you wait that long?? :lol:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: propes on February 12, 2009, 16:54:38
Is it just me but does he look like the singer outta bucks fizz who got a massive brain injury in a coach crash?   i just hope they are locked in that garage 24/7 as it is the perfect place for TOOLS!!! seriously get a life you sad muppets its a CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope plenty of seagulls unload on it , id love to see his face as he works out the depth of crap on it and what compound to use, clearly the idiots used to "polishing"  ;)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: lee celtic on February 16, 2009, 22:43:34

Quote
There's a fine line between 'hobby' & mental illness.........


There was a fine line, this nutter has polished it out


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

priceless  :lol: :lol:

I took a leaf out of his book tonight...

first I prepared the car by lifting the windscreen wipers forward. I then purchased the cheapest jetwash token the garage had.

using the foaming brush I moved around the truck , unfortunatly I spent a bit too long on the bird turd on the drivers window so the passenger side only got a quick swipe then a rince followed by a blow dry .( I drove home)

I can however report that I can now see out of the front and rear windows and just about see out the drivers window ( seaguls must eat some really greasy food :evil:)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: waveydavey on February 17, 2009, 08:34:35

I can however report that I can now see out of the front and rear windows and just about see out the drivers window ( seagulls must eat some really greasy food :evil:)

Fish - From Llanberis Chippy!! :D

I must say though your write up was considerably more interesting to read than his was.

One thing I really can't get my head around is the website - "Detailing Bliss" ??? I mean contradiction or what? It should be
www.ohhellmycarisdesperateforawashagainIhopeitrains.com
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: discowoman on February 17, 2009, 08:56:21
.
 "Detailing Bliss"
I', still trying to work out if thats an anagram of 'Im a brain dead moron with no life' I think im nearly there

LOL
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: richo on February 17, 2009, 19:57:24
Iv'e booked the 110 in ,bet it takes long than his VXR.
Do you think all the tins in his cupboard face label out.
What he really wants to do is get a life buy a landy and let it leak okl all over his drive ,that will put a smile on his face
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Gordo on February 18, 2009, 13:23:40
Iv'e booked the 110 in ,bet it takes long than his VXR.
Do you think all the tins in his cupboard face label out.
What he really wants to do is get a life buy a landy and let it leak okl all over his drive ,that will put a smile on his face

That's just given me an idea  :shocked:

Has anyone taken a Land Rover and done the bling thing? Lowered suspension, bit alloy wheels, drain pipe exhaust, in-car entertainment and all that nonsense?

Would be an interesting project for "Ponce my Ride". Needs to be a Defender for extra sillyness :)


[Ponce is the British word for a Pimp]
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 18, 2009, 14:54:32
See this months LRO I think, unless it was an old one from under the sofa.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: dreadnought110 on February 18, 2009, 21:07:41
Can you imagine what he would think to the build quality of a brand new Defender... He would cry!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :evil:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: clbarclay on February 18, 2009, 21:53:35
That's just given me an idea  :shocked:

Has anyone taken a Land Rover and done the bling thing? Lowered suspension, bit alloy wheels, drain pipe exhaust, in-car entertainment and all that nonsense?

Would be an interesting project for "Ponce my Ride". Needs to be a Defender for extra sillyness :)


[Ponce is the British word for a Pimp]

There was actually a pimp my ride episode where they had a RRC, though I've not seen the result.


Theres certainly been a few defenders that have been tarted up.

This is one that twisted performance produced
(http://www.twistedperformance.co.uk/images/07_90_JERRYWALES1.jpg)(http://www.twistedperformance.co.uk/images/07_90_JERRYWALES.jpg)
http://www.twistedperformance.co.uk/project_twisted.htm

To be fair you could probably do a lot worse to a defender in the name of image, but still.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: thermidorthelobster on February 18, 2009, 22:10:14
Some of the guys in the Jag forum are into detailing.  This is partly because they have damn nice cars, but also partly because a lot of them are seriously minted, so don't flinch from paying some guy several hundred quid to spend 3 days cleaning their car.

Anal it may be, but I have to hand it to them - their cars look absolutely mint, much better than they did when they came out of the factory.  The attention to detail is impressive (albeit not quite so bad as the Astra guy).  You can get an idea of the sort of result they get here. (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=103427)  I'd have to say it's much more impressive on an older car with all the scratches & swirls in the paintwork than it is in one that's pretty good to start with.

And having spent about 6 hours yesterday and today cleaning and polishing the Disco, and reminding myself how much effort I had to put in just to clean it to a fairly mediocre standard, I don't mind admitting that if I won the lottery I'd book www.obsessivecardetailing.co.uk to come and do all 3 of ours.

More before and after style photos here. (http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/index.html)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: lee celtic on February 18, 2009, 23:50:19
Here's one  :cool:

(http://automotiverhythms.com/images/fw_2006landrover_1.jpg)(http://z.about.com/d/trucks/1/5/m/S/troylee_rrsport_rear.jpg)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: crazymac on February 19, 2009, 00:01:36
Here's one  :cool:


Thats PUG UGLY!! :-> :-> :->
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Nick4X4 on February 19, 2009, 02:28:36
as said IT'S A VAUXHALL ASTRA so why?? all that money spent!!! what a waste, if he had blinged a milk float he would of got more respect  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: discowoman on February 19, 2009, 07:59:54
That's just given me an idea  :shocked:

Has anyone taken a Land Rover and done the bling thing? Lowered suspension, bit alloy wheels, drain pipe exhaust, in-car entertainment and all that nonsense?

Would be an interesting project for "Ponce my Ride". Needs to be a Defender for extra sillyness :)


[Ponce is the British word for a Pimp]

There was actually a pimp my ride episode where they had a RRC, though I've not seen the result.

http://www.mtv.com/photos/pimp-my-ride-season-4-episode-guide/1534455/2034411/photo.jhtml         :->
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: bukshot on February 19, 2009, 13:35:30
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/dadba/Dec%2007%20to%20Dec%2008/dadba1/Emoticons/untitled.jpg)
I have never laughed so much whilst reading posts on a website as I have to all the above comments. (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/dadba/Dec%2007%20to%20Dec%2008/dadba1/Emoticons/jump.gif)
 :lol: :clap:
I too only just managed to get to the bottom of page one, Lord knows why, spose I was kinda expecting to experience something special. Again why I dont know cos like was said earlier, its only an Astra.  :-k
Am I allowed to say that, owning a Nissan ? (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/dadba/Dec%2007%20to%20Dec%2008/dadba1/Emoticons/eusa_whistle.gif)  :lol:
Thanks for the laugh tho that was brilliant.  (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/dadba/Dec%2007%20to%20Dec%2008/dadba1/Emoticons/thumbup.gif)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/dadba/Dec%2007%20to%20Dec%2008/dadba1/Emoticons/lol201.gif)
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 19, 2009, 17:57:40

Am I allowed to say that, owning a Nissan ?

Yes, provided it's not a Nissan that took 54 hours to polish the day you bought it.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Jamin on February 19, 2009, 18:03:53
My computer gave up loading the pictures half way down page one. Even it got bored

I painted my newly fitted sills/sliders today in Hammerite.

Think i might get him to take a look as i did end up with a small paint blob..............................................................a few brush stokes, bristles, dust , fingerprints, flies, cat hair etc.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 19, 2009, 18:11:19
Crikey I just noticed the website is called 3 month detail, is that really how long it took?  Looser!
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: lee celtic on February 19, 2009, 20:24:14
Quote
Pug ugly  :->

agreed would look better all black  :afro:

(http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-med-13307-264149-land-rover-defender-drag-car.jpg)(http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/Defender_Drag_Racer-478.jpg)

though I do like these  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: TwoSheds on February 20, 2009, 05:59:07
Way over the top.  :->
Definitely OCD.  8-[
Brilliant attention to detail. :-o
Amazing craftsmanship. :clap:
Unbelievable dedication. :?
What cost?  :shock:

I think you have to get past the idea that this is a car. As far as he is concerned it is art and trying to compare it to your Disco/RRC/90/110 is pointless. I think that the owner would relate more closely to that chap who does sculpture in the eye of a needle than to me with my Rover.

Roger

p.s. I would love to park my Rover precisely one metre from that VXR and then do time lapse photography for a day or two - I reckon its possible to catch the migration of the rust on tape since no decent self-respecting bit of Fe2O3 could possibly resist a target like that :lol:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Reggieroo on February 23, 2009, 13:28:27
OCD is the only word I can think off! I can't believe this guy, he has bought an Astra to put it in a bubble  :doh:

I was a valeter & smart repairer for years so I'm somebody with an attention to detail who used to pride myself in doing a good job to a customers car or my own for that matter but what planet is he living on? Polishing hinges with a cotton bud, waxing his suspension springs well the list goes on, I still can't believe there is people that crazy out there.

If it was a £120,000 Bentley then you could understand why he wants to take care of his paintwork with some good quality wax etc but even so you have to drive it & it will get dirty.

God forbid a fly craps on it, he was on about fitting an anti roll bar to help it corner at speed...................& when it flicks a stone up whats he going to do, sue the council for damages?

My God this guy needs to get real!
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: merlin617 on February 24, 2009, 17:23:16
KNOB!
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: lee celtic on February 24, 2009, 18:25:18
Quote
KNOB!

Yep and it's polished daily  :twisted:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: Dr Evil on February 24, 2009, 19:11:36
If he was my brother I'd punch him in the face. :roll:
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: datalas on February 24, 2009, 20:29:47
Ahem, chaps.

OCD is as the name implies a disorder, and there may well be nothing that the chap can do to satiate his compulsions other than what we consider "excessive".

Rather than get insulting we should accept that he probably can't rationalise it either
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: propes on February 25, 2009, 20:07:27
Who cares,it looks like members are having a little harmless fun without flaming other members,which in my book can only be a good thing........... can't it?
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: datalas on February 25, 2009, 21:08:39
Yeah, I suppose ..

probably me being tetchy, maybe I've got an OCD about people arguing :D
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: clbarclay on February 27, 2009, 16:46:14
Members not insulting or arguing with each other is an improvement over some threads on here, but I was not expecting some of the replies when I posted this.

Each to their own I suppose, he's as free to detail that car as the rest of us are to pass comment, within reason.
Title: Re: The extreme opposite of modification?
Post by: propes on February 27, 2009, 18:24:21
Been fun tho, go all of ya admit i!!  Lets keep the tongue in cheek cheekiness that we all love about the Brits. (im English British!!)
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