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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: carbore on February 09, 2009, 11:28:15
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OK, Anyone like to share the trchniques of snow driving as I am very out of practice. e.g
- Driving in fresh snow verses in other tracks
How to stop down hill (ideally you dont want to have to )
Turning off the stereo so you can hear tyre noise, if you cant then you are on ice
Getting going if you stop, because the person in front just has (agin avoid if at all possible)
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all terrain tyres appear to be better than my special tracks,
when going up a icey ( sheet ice with snow on top ) hit at speed or you wont make it ( from experiance )
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when approaching junction, use the engine to brake you, same applies when coming down hil, simlar to off-roading..Not to maany revs when pulling away, use 2nd/3rd gear
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Keiron, try letting your tyres down a bit.
Caddence braking - pump your brakes if you have to use them don't just push them to the floor.
If you lock up let off the brakes and you'll regain steering
Plan a lot further ahead, means you can avoid breaking
keep back from cars in front going up icey/ snowy hills - incase they don't make it and need to reverse back for another go.
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If you have a diesel, don't bother with that stuff about "higher gears when pulling away". I have always had far more control by pulling away as normal but with less right foot. That worked with my old Citroen ZX, my Disco, and Dad's Saab TiD (which I can get moving on snow while he can't! :lol:). I find it far easier to control the torque with my right foot than by using a higher gear.
BFG A/Ts when new are amazing on snow. As they wear they tend to lock up more easily, I know I was having some trouble with braking, locking up and understeering until I remembered how to drive on snow.
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if you have to go out, don't touch the pedals!lol use engine breaking more and be bloomin careful. 8-[
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Scandinavian flick?
You did mean on private roads, didn't you!
http://www.youtube.com/v/zii0fob5Qog&hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/zii0fob5Qog&hl=en&fs=1)
I agree BFG ATs are the business in the snow - got brand new MTs on the road motor and they are nowhere near as nice. Sipes are your friend!
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stay at home
Heathen, get the tar and feathers :lol:
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i just played in my street until i knew what to expect going up onto the plain on sunday i just used fresh snow and speed did not slow to put in 4*4 but i was frozen slush more than ice joe
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Oversteer makes me smile.
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I've been having fun on Exmoor this weekend on Jungle Trekkers :lol:
(http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/40620/2848159240102123940S500x500Q85.jpg)
:D :D
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If the surface is fully covered with snow/ice, engage the centre diff-lock, it should be harder to lock individual wheels when braking.
(or spin them when driving away)
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steer from the rear my man,best way,press the pedel,turn the wheel :lol: :lol: :dance:
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less right pedal, more gears and stay away from the middle pedal
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Nice driving Henry :clap:
Snow driving is the ultimate in defensive driving. Look much further ahead than you normally do, looking for the other cars coming towards you and anticipate where they might mess it up!!
Do everything much slower, like feed the power in slower, brake slower, use the engine to brake as much as you can.
One piece of advice that most seem to forget though, is to clear the snow off the vehicle! Seriously, i've seen vehicles this week with a head shaped hole in the snow in the windscreen, 3 inches of snow on the roof that has bits that keep flying and hitting other cars and the rear screen is totally blocked with snow!!
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had no trouble at all with my mud tyres hardly used diff lock . only once when going up a field covered in snow and towing a van out ,,was pretty fresh snow though ..
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lots of gas, lots of steering wheel, hit post, inspect damage, beat light gaurd back into shape, proceed :D
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Was on site with a customer yesterday - me in the 110 on mud's, him in a '58 plate Alfa Romeo Brera. Car park was 5" deep in nice fresh snow.........parked the 110 nice and neatly - he'd abandoned the Brera where it stopped.
2 hours later we leave site.
I said "could be interesting getting out of here"
He says " nah, I got traction control"
I jump in the 110, start up, turn the Eber on for added warmth, write up my notes, and listen to the sound of a Brera on full throttle trying to scrabble up the slight slope out of the car park.
I offered to tow him, but he declined, I offered to push - but there's nothing on the back of a Brera to push against. So I watched - and listened, must have been a V6 or something, sounded quite nice for an Alfa !!
He did eventually get out, and just to rub salt into his wounds I drove the 110 right down the bottom of the car park into the nice fresh snow, had a play, then drove out - easy :grin:
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The most important thing as in any driving ENGAGE YOUR BRAIN!!! :lol: =; [-X :-$ :-k
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One good thing (genreally) about a long period of snow / ice ..... people tend to adapt fairly quickly to the changes in conditions i.e.
The bad drivers stay at home
and the other drivers think, "oh welll ......... it's only an inch of snow today, not the 6 inches we had to deal with on Tuesday last week" Whereas, if we'de unexpectedly had an inch of snow .... it'd be chaos!
So people do adapt and change their driving style (mostly)
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I just let the engine do the braking in low box, my tire are sipped and it made a difference on the approach to the Wayfarer on Sunday evening, the guys with Swampers an diamond backs where all over the place, though we did decide discretion was the better part of valour considering the time of course :^o when we came across this, we thought was a drift bit it went a long way, further than we could be bothered to walk :lol:
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/Driftwood28/4xfun%20wayferer%20snow%2002%2009/DSCF9132.jpg)
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Find a big carpark or field then 2nd gear flat on the gas .. then dip the clutch and as the rear comes round gun it then try and balence the revs with the slide and drift the car as long as you can . after a while (1 , 2 hours ) :twisted: you can start changing direction and doing figure 8's while still in 4 wheel drift....
I did this with the last lot of snow , now I know what a skid feels like and how correct it . it teaches you how to handle the car in a slide and is loads of fun .
with this lot of snow I felt a lot happier driving and went a few places I wouldn't have gone before...
best advice "Know your limits , then expand them" :twisted:
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Find a big carpark or field then 2nd gear flat on the gas ..
Thats how I learned :dance: RollsRoyce had a factory about two miles away from where I grew up and it was HUGE about two miles long and a half mile wide!!!
Whenever it snowed or there was heavy ice, we went down there to play! Great fun :dance:
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Very Very tricky...maximum attack as an old Scandanavian rally geru said... :lol:
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Scandinavian flick?
You did mean on private roads, didn't you!
http://www.youtube.com/v/zii0fob5Qog&hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/zii0fob5Qog&hl=en&fs=1)
I agree BFG ATs are the business in the snow - got brand new MTs on the road motor and they are nowhere near as nice. Sipes are your friend!
very nice . sounds sweet ...
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The bad drivers stay at home
Are you sure about that? I've come across more than my share this week - one dozy mare who was crawling along at about 8 mph and then somehow managed to slow down even more on a steep down hill so that I was having to apply the brakes on compressed snow - there was just no other way I could keep some distance from the back of her car, and I've also been tailgated on compressed snow - so close that I couldn't see his front numberplate through my mirrors. That wasn't pleasant. To name but two.
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The bad drivers stay at home
Are you sure about that?
OK .......... accepted .......... MOST of them stay at home! ;) As for the others :-# :-# :-#
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from what iv seen over the past 2 days the snow is a lot safer than the cold we have here now- yesterday driving to a job there was a great big tailback on a minor countryroad i wnet past, talking to someone in the village shop and FIVE cars had skidded off on one stretch of road andd this morning another one was on its roof in a ditch, with 2 :police:cars and an ambulance attending :shock: :shock:
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a trick I was taught was if your in a 2wd front wheel drive car and you want to go round a corner and it is just going forwards is to dip the clutch. It does work!
If it is an auto and rwd be careful as when you brake the back wheels will want to keep pushing you and might loose the back end. Did in my lorry. grrr. neutral was the only way around some corners!
just use little revs as possible especially pulling away. Chap at work on a very slight incline then a speed bump got stuck. He was just booting it. Then people went to push to he moved away gentley then he again booted it and stopped. I got bored watching so just drove past him in the disco and filled up with diesel over the road and watched him not going very far!!! :lol:
Disco on bfg a/ts was awesome. never got stuck once, even on a steep incline on sheet ice when I had to stop and push a car up a hill, the disco had slight wheel spin but eased off gas pedal and up she went.
Sorry this post is not very current any more but I have only just had my internet conncected again. grrr. I do still have some snow out side and in places on peoples driveways.
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Never presume you know where the road is in snow drifts, if in doubt get the pokey stick out.
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If the surface is fully covered with snow/ice, engage the centre diff-lock, it should be harder to lock individual wheels when braking.
(or spin them when driving away)
i found centre diff lock to be worse, as when a wheel locks up seemed to loose all drive when desending slopes which wasnt good
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In really slippery conditions the centre diff lock can be your enemy rather than your friend. Great for traction, but has a significant impact on steering.
The viscous from the RRC is much better in these conditions.
H
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OK, Anyone like to share the trchniques of snow driving as I am very out of practice. e.g
Take advantage and laugh as you out-perform 90 odd thousand pound supercars!
(http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z165/disco_diesel/th_DSC03681.jpg) (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z165/disco_diesel/DSC03681.jpg)
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Remember the advice for next time it snows, perhaps your grandchildren will use that advice. :lol: