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Title: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: mike142sl on June 22, 2009, 13:17:34
The Environmental Transport Association have published a list of most and least 'green' vehicles. The top ten least can be found here http://www.eta.co.uk/car_buyers_guide/ten_worst

Interesting that not one is a 4x4.
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: V8MoneyPit on June 22, 2009, 13:37:22
And there was me thinking it was my dream garage list  :lol: With the exception of the Caddy of course 8-[  :lol:
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: crazymac on June 22, 2009, 14:07:32
And the ten best????

This year the Car Buyer’s Guide has ranked the following cars as the top 10 overall:

Honda New Insight
Toyota iQ
Toyota Yaris
Nissan Pixo
Suzuki Alto
Honda Civic Hybrid
Ford New Fiesta
Toyota Auris
Mazda Mazda2
Toyota Prius


So the supposed saviour of the planet is only number 10!!!

But also regarding the "worst" 10, how many of them are actually on the road??? They are such high end cars that there cannot be that many running the roads of the world!

load of tosh this environmental bit anyway, they should be looking at "whole life cycle" and not fuel consumption!!
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: V8MoneyPit on June 22, 2009, 18:01:30
You'll notice their tag line is 'Your green piece of mind'. That's all it is really...... people having their conscience clear because they drive an 'officially' green car even though we know better.

I'll wager that you take any one of the top ten list and it will produce more emmisions in a year than most of the worst 10. Simply because the cars in the worst list hardly do any mileage. I know someone who sells exotic cars and if a 2 year old Murcielago has done more than 1000 miles it's concidered high mileage  :lol:
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: Boddle on June 22, 2009, 18:05:46
Petty these don't for some reason take into account manufacturing C02 levels. the story is very different then.
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: Lucy1978 on June 23, 2009, 12:21:19
Quote from: mike142sl
Interesting that not one is a 4x4.
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Aren't numbers 2 and 8 4x4's?
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: mike142sl on June 23, 2009, 13:27:56
Quote from: mike142sl
Interesting that not one is a 4x4.
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Aren't numbers 2 and 8 4x4's?
Very much in the sports category. Although I'd like to see one try chapel gate !!!
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: carbore on June 23, 2009, 18:15:24
My stance is "There are no green products, only greener patters of usage"

e.g a landrover owned by a small holder who is 100% self sufficient in food vs a Eco car purchased by a city-living "Green consumer" who has thrown away all thier perfectly good old stuff and replaced with news sustainable stuff, and then agin becuase it was not from an ethical factory and then a new bag as the old one looked tatty and they go shopping for clothes ever weekend.

And dot get me started on public transport. Last year I worked all over london on a project and never needed to so-much-as get a taxi as they have tube or bus stations about every 3 feet. I was only late once and hardly even bothered to look at timetables as they are so frequent. Most I waalked was about 2 miles.

Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: dreadnought110 on June 23, 2009, 21:44:00
Hmm with all them bentleys do you think it was sponsered by Rolls Royce?? :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: CaptainColourful on June 24, 2009, 00:11:28
 :doh:
With the exotics the mean average over a year has to make them greener than any in the "best" list.

I will leave the Viper and the Lambo in the garage during the week to appease the greens....... that will ease my concience a little. 

Oh heck....... I forgot....... I haven't won the lotto yet !
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on June 26, 2009, 19:54:57
I can get our XKR to show 2 MPG :shock:, by harsh acceleration - up to the legally posted limits

Ie; when joining a motorway, off a slow-moving slip-road

So, that's not a 'green car', but it will also return 25-30MPG, if driven accordingly
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: James.Harwood on June 28, 2009, 08:28:19
Have managed to get My Ford fiesta 1.4tdci to show 12MPG - thats less than the Landrover (just), and it will be replaced in 18 months.

Toyota Prius - not at all eco friendly - just look at the batteries!!! and on the motorway............. BMW 325d uses a lot less fuel.
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: littlepow on June 30, 2009, 10:33:43
No V8 petrol Hummer in the worst ten list?

What about the old Lambo 4x4 offroader thing?
(http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/lma1t.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: V8MoneyPit on June 30, 2009, 13:31:05
What about the old Lambo 4x4 offroader thing?
(http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/lma1t.jpg)

It's new cars.
Title: Re: Top 10 least green vehicles published
Post by: Disco Matt on June 30, 2009, 21:18:22
The Prius really is a bit of a con. My Dad's Saab TiD gets around 58-59mpg on a reasonable run and not much less around town. I have never seen it drop below 57mpg even with my habit of using all 150bhp to wind up the local BMW population... :twisted:

So, the same fuel economy in a far quicker and more pleasant to drive car. Why should I be buying a hybrid again?  :lol:
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