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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: SPIKEY on April 01, 2005, 19:17:50

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 01, 2005, 19:17:50

Painful for me, as I am at work to-morrow, getting one out.

As some people may know, I sold my boss a '97 Disco 3.9 a few weeks ago.
He has now sold the engine, and I have the job of getting it out  :(  :(

As the car has been rolled, and there is no interior in it, would it be best to take the shell off the chassis and work from the top, or does any-one know an easy way ?

This is the main plan of attack, but any other suggestions would be more than welcome.

HELP  :!:  :!:  

Cheers,


SPIKEY.

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: Xtremeteam on April 01, 2005, 19:28:50

depends on what you wish to save as if the rest of it is getting scraped id get the burner out & whip the shell off as this will make it easer to split the engine from the box as im in the middle of doin 2 clutchs on discos & getting the bolts from underneath is a nightmare

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 01, 2005, 19:54:56

Cheers V8 - how about  cutting the transmission tunnel out ?

The shell is scrap any - way.

Cheers,

SPIKEY.

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: Xtremeteam on April 01, 2005, 19:58:02

could just cut the tunnel out  if your short of time,im guessing you have removed all the wiring for the ecu etc? otherwise this burns rather well :lol:
if you removing the shell you can prety much start chopping where ever takes your fancy

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: muddyweb on April 01, 2005, 20:03:38

If you are cutting.. make sure there are no fuel lines, tanks, filters in the way too !   :shock:

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 01, 2005, 20:04:55

Cheers V8.

I will give you an up-date tomorrow.

SPIKEY. ( gas torch, slab cutter, goggles and swear box at the ready !! )

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 01, 2005, 20:07:37

Thanks Tim.

The 2nd item to come off the car will be the tank !!
The first is the battery :lol:

Cheers,

SPIKEY. ( CO2 at the ready !! )

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: hobbit on April 01, 2005, 22:52:23

I'd go for the shell off as well, makes it easier to play with the engine and box, most of the accessories can be unplugged, or unbolted quite easily, when ready set of forks in the window holes and up you go, like was said make sure the fuel tank/lines are safe or you could have  nice pool of fuel on the floor

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: Range Rover Blues on April 02, 2005, 13:39:37

You might find the floor from a 5 speed is worth something to someone.

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 02, 2005, 21:55:29

The Job is NEARLY done !

The Boss told me this morning that the Disco had to be CAREFULLY dismantled, and all parts saved.

All fluids drained, engine bay stripped, cooling and a/c rad out, a.b.s system out,  engine loom out ( from inside the car ! ) , auto gearchange , hand brake and steering column dis-connected, and all the body mounts,fuel pipes and brake pipes.

No handbook, no cutting gear, never done a Disco before.

Result ?

1 body shell on the deck.
1 rolling chassis ready to have the engine removed !

Thanks go to my following friends :

1 - Compressor
2 - Impact sockets
3 - Patience
4 - Fork - lift

What a day , but I was determined to do it.
The bolts may be bigger but the car is a LOT LOT heavier than a normal family saloon !

Thanks for all the info.

Cheers,

SPIKEY. ( nothing damaged :lol:  )

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 04, 2005, 21:37:28

The job is finished !!

Rear prop off.
Front prop off.
Exhaust downpipes un-bolted.
2 engine mounting bolts off.
2 gearbox mounting bolts off.
Gearbox cooler pipes and loom off.

Hey presto, when all the bellhousing bolts are out, the job is done.

I have learned something to-day;

I know why they build the rolling chassis c/w engine + box etc. and THEN drop the body shell on .


Cheers,

SPIKEY.  ( Happy to have dismantled his first Disco by hand :lol: )

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 06, 2005, 22:39:54

HELP !!

Has any-one ever taken the torque converter off a 3.9 ?

Looking at it, the bolts can only be accessed through a hole in the backplate.
Tough bolts.
Mighty strong torqued up bolts.

I have spun the fly-wheel to different positions, but with the best will in the world cannot get any grip on the 13 mm bolts.

Extensions, small sockets, etc. ?????

I need to get the torque converter , fly-wheel and back plate off before Friday.

Any Ideas ??


Cheers,

SPIKEY. ( Looking through the Snap - On " Special " catalogue  :oops:  )

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: muddyweb on April 06, 2005, 23:52:47

You can get to them by taking the inspection cover (half moon) off the bottom of the bell housing, or by taking the starter motor out and working through that hole.

It's a fiddle :-(

Title: V 8 ENGINE EXTRACTION ( PAINFUL !!!! )
Post by: SPIKEY on April 07, 2005, 00:05:41

Thanks for the reply Tim.

The engine is currently sitting on the deck, minus gearbox.

The inspection plate and starter are off.

The only way I can see  is getting the sump off to get a socket on the bolt in a straight line.

HELP !

( this is a job where some-one comes along and says " You do it like this " - I hope !! )

Cheers,

SPIKEY.