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Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: drum on April 03, 2005, 12:03:26
Started fitting the Snorkel Today, thought I'd do it properly, so first thing I did was strip out all the internal hose upto the air box, so that I could seal it all up.

Judging by the state of it, I should have fitted a snorkel the day I bought the defender  :twisted:
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: robbie on April 03, 2005, 12:07:38
he he he.... hindsight, isnt it wonderful??  8)

dont forget to post the piccies of it after
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: drum on April 03, 2005, 12:14:25
That was quick I was just arguing with the upload, cos my images were too big  :D

What's the wisdom on sealing the drain in the bottom of the system. I notice that in LRO, they show a picture of it been sealed. However my gut feel is that if I do by chance get some water in then I want it to drain.

What's the opinions?
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: thermidorthelobster on April 03, 2005, 13:21:48
If you *don't* seal it, water will definitely get in.  The one-way valve doesn't work very well at all.  I'd say seal it.  Once you have the snorkel on, you should not be getting any more water down there that the engine can't deal with in the form of vapour anyway.
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: davidlandy on April 03, 2005, 16:42:35
i sealed mine witha health yoghurt bottle!

seems to fit very nicley

waste of time fitting a snorkel unless you properly seal and prepare the rest of the air intake system.
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: thermidorthelobster on April 03, 2005, 16:49:45
By the way, a good way to seal it is to take off the rubber valve, find a piece of metal which fits perfectly over the hole (eg a suitable large coin), then put the coin over the hole, a piece of flexible plastic such as a bit of a plastic bag over the coin and surrounding area, then use the rubber valve to sit over the top of the whole lot and keep it in place.  That way, you can open it up very quickly if you want to, ie to drain the box, which you can't if you seal it up with something permanent like silicone.

(You don't really need the coin if you find a strong piece of plastic, such as from a fertiliser sack, as you're not going to have much pressure on it unless somebody sticks their hand over the snorkel inlet.)
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: Wanderer on April 03, 2005, 17:15:08
IME it's not so much that the dump valve doesn't work. It's that the snorkel (especially the Safari) gets bits of twig, bees and the like into the air filter. These then work their way down to the dump valve and then jam it open. So while the engine is sucking the valve definately doesn't work.

I've been thinking of adding an extra bit of see through hose (6-8") that would collect any excess water in the extra hose which you'd then be able to see and drain off manually after wading.

Another round TUIT job.
Of course turning the Safari top around when you're laning or off roading does lessen the tree collection.

Buying a new dump valve isn't the answer. They come in a box that isn't large enough and the lips of the dump valve are already distorted.

Ed
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: muddyweb on April 03, 2005, 18:03:49
Be careful calling it a dump valve... that's an entirely different part of a Turbo Engine.


I've sealed the drain valve on mine and I keep the box checked / cleaned after any serious work.
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: Wanderer on April 03, 2005, 18:15:14
Landrover call it a dump valve Tim.
 :?

Ed
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: Bob696 on April 03, 2005, 18:27:14
whatever you call it it is a pain in the butt :(

I have a snorkal fitted but forgot/ didnt know about the whateveryouwannacallit. Fortunatly got a way with a soggy airfilter. I know better now.

I like ed's idea of the long transparant flexable hose.
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: muddyweb on April 03, 2005, 18:42:36
Quote from: "Wanderer"
Landrover call it a dump valve Tim.
 :?

Ed


In my parts list it is called :  NRC8955 - Valve Assembly Air Intake  ;-)

In any case, the advice stands... a dump valve is associated with the turbocharger... and I was concerned it may cause confusion.
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: Sooty on April 03, 2005, 21:30:44
Yes Tim.
You are right it may cause confusion but in the Land Rover Workshop Manual, Section 10 page 22 paragraph 12 Quote "Squeeze open the dump valve and check that the interior is clean. Also check that the rubber is flexible and in good condition."
Who said life was simple?
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: muddyweb on April 03, 2005, 21:36:24
Well... now we've all scored the requisite number of points.....    

I've sealed mine.   :roll:
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: NiceBlueWellies on April 04, 2005, 13:14:28
Our's isn't sealed, we've used a walrus instead!

(sorry, I'm a bit bored!) :D
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: Digsit on April 04, 2005, 15:03:38
Quote from: "NicePinkWellies"
Our's isn't sealed, we've used a walrus instead!

(sorry, I'm a bit bored!) :D


I hope you havent been emptying the wine rack while i'm at work :shock:
Title: Whoops, Good time to fit a Snorkel!!
Post by: NiceBlueWellies on April 04, 2005, 16:57:55
What wine, there's none left :?
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