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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Mutz on October 21, 2009, 17:52:27
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Any one else waiting for it to arrive in the post?
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I would never trust a new Windoze product until it has been around for at least a few months. Remember the Vista launch? No end of problems. I still don't like Vista and use my XP machine far more.
I do hope they leave all the graphical gizmos in favour of a functional OS with 7. I can never see the point of wasting valuable processor power and memory just driving the OS.
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Been using the Beta version for months, its FFFFFFFFAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR better than vista and xp.
So pre ordered 2 versions of 7 on the first day of pre ordering and saved a small fortune.
Change its by far the best OS Microsoft have made.
Oh and it loads and shuts down quicker too.
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I've ordered the pro version for the new PC I've built, tho' I wish I had ordered earlier and saved nearly £50 :(
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Tried the beta and that was very stable.
Looking at most the reviews this morning, The most stable version of Windows ever but not revoltionary just what vista should have been.
I have noticed though that people who have tried an upgrade rather than a clean install have had issue usually with network setting and the internet. Most recommend backing up your data and doing a clean install
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I have a technet subscription and still sadly not got round to running it. However I hear its by far the best as mentioned above and have not actually heard a bad word against it. If you are running Vista then its well worth adopting Windows 7 early, if you are on XP and everything works, then I don't see a rush unless you get a good deal.
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Ive been using it for about a month now. Windows 7 Ultimate. It with out a doubt the best Operating system Ive used, even prefer to my installation of suse linux. Its makes vista look like so very slow. Ive installed it on my 64bit system, however if your panning to install on a 32bit system you will most likely have to format your hard drive before install. Anyway i highly recommend it, Very impressed.
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Linux and OSX still blow it out of the water though.
I'd save my money install linux and stop worrying about viruses and spyware, faster boot up times, better hardware recognition, more stable, smaller foot print on the hard drive.
OSX installs on nearly all modern PC's now. I've a advent netbook here will a fully functional version of OSX running.
Windows 7 - na it's just another re-hash of a POS.
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Windows vista beats my Linux start up. Microsoft have really aced this one. I know its looks like vista buts its a diffrent animal
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I may go down this route in order to make it easier to network my XP desk top, my lads XP lap top, and my daughters Vista laptop. Had no end of problems linking them all together and just about given up with the Vista one. Being one of the cautious brigade I shall wait until next year before doing so - apparently there is a family licence that allows you to install onto 3 PCs.
However I ran a compatability test on my desktop and it stated that my Graphics card was not compatable? Hopefully this will be clarified beffore next year.
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Well they both arrived today :dance:
Win7 Pro for me & Win7 home to replace Vista on my wifes laptop.
Vista has a known problem with wireless and xp, you cant run both on wireless network.
Also Vista apparently loads all drivers eventho you only need a few; was told it has 40,000 of them :shock: no wonder it takes up so much space..................
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http://xkcd.com/528/ (http://xkcd.com/528/)
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http://xkcd.com/528/ (http://xkcd.com/528/)
***snigger***
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Can i also point something out. The upgrade version has exactly the same disk as the full version. I know this as i have the upgrade version and i just installed it on a machine i formatted :D
So save some coins and buy the upgrade and not the full one! lol
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They only suppling 1 version to the EU think youll find its the full version not an upgrade, it says upgrade on the disk when you load it.
Havnt seen upgrade for sale!!
Went straight in on Wifes laptop and shes happy with it.
Will probably do my PC tonight or tomorrow with 7 Pro.
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Check pc world, they got upgrade cheaper than full version and they are definately retailing both.
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Check pc world, they got upgrade cheaper than full version and they are definately retailing both.
Upgrade is cheaper as you are upgrading an already purchased, therefore "licensed" copy.
i have been using and testing windows 7 for months now, and by far the best OS yet from Microsoft, it is Vista finished and almost as promised in the first place ;)
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Hmm found my first problem :-k
Doesnt recognise my MIO p350 :evil:
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Another issue to be aware of is that a number of Anti Virus programs are conflicting with some Wireless drivers and blue screening the PC. The likes of Symantec have now (Thursday) released updates/new packages that is allegedly compatible with Windows 7. We had the issue with new Dell laptops at work, and are currently testing Symantecs new version??
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Check pc world, they got upgrade cheaper than full version and they are definately retailing both.
Upgrade is cheaper as you are upgrading an already purchased, therefore "licensed" copy.
i have been using and testing windows 7 for months now, and by far the best OS yet from Microsoft, it is Vista finished and almost as promised in the first place ;)
I was using the beta myself for quite a while.
I know the upgrade is cheaper, but what i am saying is its not just an upgrade disk. I bought the family pack which is the upgrade disks, and did a complete fresh install on a formatted hard drive using it and using the code that came with it, so its not necessary to buy the full version when you can get the upgrade version and do the same thing!
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I was using the beta myself for quite a while.
I know the upgrade is cheaper, but what i am saying is its not just an upgrade disk. I bought the family pack which is the upgrade disks, and did a complete fresh install on a formatted hard drive using it and using the code that came with it, so its not necessary to buy the full version when you can get the upgrade version and do the same thing!
Useful information, I was looking at the Family pack as I have a desktop and 3 laptops and the full install looks like the way to go.
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Family pack does it Mike, so far we have done a clean install on my pc, an upgrade on swmbo's pc (she has loads of stuff she cba to move lol) and we are going to use the third one on me mothers laptop when she comes up here next month.
But it does do a completely clean install :D This is definate as i formatted me hard drive completely before installing :D
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Mio P350 now syncs fine, just started up and found it for no apparent reason.
So happy bunny again :dance: :afro:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/25/windows_7_reader_reviews_redux/
Worth a read, actual peoples reviews, mainly says it's rubbish and keep away.
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Been using mine for a few days and rather like it, could it be that some people just don't like change, I kept away from vista after experiencing it on a mates laptop which was exactly the same spec as my laptop but remarkably slower.
Yes 7 is differently laid out to XP but googling has solved most issues, so far I give it a thumbs up. :thumbup:
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Im running it dual boot, just in case, as I dont want to not be able to work if it is wonky. Also some of the problems are due to drivers, luckily mine all went through ok, but id be very careful about unsing XP drivers on Win7 (and for that matter XP system tools including virus checkers)
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Vista drivers are compatible with 7, XP are not; 7PRO has XP compatible mode for running some progs.
As i said earlier, ive been running the beta version and really been looking forward to getting Win7 only a couple of minor hicups but now well pleased.
7 is the new XP, remember how many ppl slated XP when that first came out!!!!
I think the beta version actually ran a bit quicker, any body else found that?
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Vista drivers are compatible with 7, XP are not; 7PRO has XP compatible mode for running some progs.
As i said earlier, ive been running the beta version and really been looking forward to getting Win7 only a couple of minor hicups but now well pleased.
7 is the new XP, remember how many ppl slated XP when that first came out!!!!
I think the beta version actually ran a bit quicker, any body else found that?
How many people still slate XP ;)
It's a memory hog, the footprint is massive, it's unstable, it was commical until service pack 2 came out.
You can polish a piece of [!Expletive Deleted!] as much as you want. It's still a piece of [!Expletive Deleted!].
Why are you all upgrading though? it's only an OS. It will give you no benefit apart from loads of your apps wont work, that anti virus software which you pay a subscription for stops working. Ok it's pretty. There's skins for XP which will make it look like win7 (vistaII? VII 7 ;) ) for free.
And come on, just on the back of those tv adverts people should be campaining against it.
My totally non-techie wife said something funny to me last night
'windows 7 just looks like they've stolen loads of things which linux has' Oh linux is free, stable, software is free, games for windows generally tend to work fine under WINE, it looks better, it's less resource hungry, the foot print on the harddrive is smaller, no virusus, no spyware, brilliant hardware support out of the box which is far far better than XP, plug something in and it will 'just work'.
If you need to pay someone money, pay apple. I've OSX running on my advent 4211 netbook at home perfectly. All the benefits of linux but it's even prettier.
Windows, pah, wouldn't give it house room, and definatly wouldn't have any windows machine on my home network.
Oh memory map works fine on both linux and osx.
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ho ho ho
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/windows-7-performance,review-31714.html
Toms hardware have just benchmarked 7 v Vista.
Vista is quicker.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Um, are you sure that's what it said?
To better gauge the user’s performance experience or how fast the system feels, load times must be captured. While we could certainly have used a stopwatch, an electronic timer is far more accurate, and benchmarks such as PCMark and SYSmark use them. These programs indicate that Windows 7 feels 7% to 10% faster than Windows Vista, and that’s enough to make us give the new OS the nod in spite of its lack of differentiation in most of our other test
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Um, are you sure that's what it said?
To better gauge the user’s performance experience or how fast the system feels, load times must be captured. While we could certainly have used a stopwatch, an electronic timer is far more accurate, and benchmarks such as PCMark and SYSmark use them. These programs indicate that Windows 7 feels 7% to 10% faster than Windows Vista, and that’s enough to make us give the new OS the nod in spite of its lack of differentiation in most of our other test
'Feels' faster does mean it is faster.
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hell my jeep 'feels' a lot faster than my merc. Doesn't mean it is.
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Well, after saying I didn't like committing to a Windows product early in it's life.......
We now have 2 W7 PC's at work :lol: And......
I rather like it :oops: :lol: There seem to be so many little details that 'just work' rather than being a pain.
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All initial setup problems seem to solve themselves with updates within a day or 2.
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Hello,
There are some good articles on Windows 7 on TechRadar 18 cool trick, and various more technical links form it that should give you a good starting point
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc/18-cool-things-windows-7-does-that-vista-doesn-t-628892