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Title: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Mark Y on November 04, 2009, 13:28:36
Alvis stalwart diving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr_pCrhTkk&feature=rec-HM-r2
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: crazymac on November 04, 2009, 14:11:09
I would LOVE to have a go at that!!
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Yoshi on November 04, 2009, 14:30:10
What he just said!!! lol

Looks like it could be enjoyable :D
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: dxmedia on November 04, 2009, 14:40:45
Stollys are getting cheap, have a look on mil-web if you've a couple of grand free and space to put one ;)
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Mark Y on November 04, 2009, 15:37:16
It must have hurt on impact ! :shock:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Skibum346 on November 04, 2009, 15:42:56
Remember as a young squaddie in West Germany in the 80's, seeing our neighbours in the garrison (Royal Artillery) leaving for a major exercise. They drove thorugh town on the way to the railway yard with probably 40 or more Stolley's... I watched from the doorstep of a local hostelry... as the stolley's fired twin streams of blue flame into the night as they thindered past!   :shock: :clap:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 04, 2009, 16:56:22
Awesome!!

It seemed to take the driver quite a long time to engage the swimming kit though. Do you think it was the concussion that slowed him down?  :lol:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Disco Matt on November 04, 2009, 17:02:30
I recall reading somewhere that the Stalwart lacks any differentials, so if you attempt to drive it on solid ground for any distance the transmission will be wrecked? Would make it a bit hard to look after as you'd need a low loader to take it to places where you could play with it.

I also recall Salvage Squad restoring one and mentioning that a lot of them have lost the swimming kit (eg the water jets, rudders, linkages). This would of course be pretty much impossible to find spares for short of fabricating new parts.
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 04, 2009, 19:31:28
I don't think you'd need to worry about damaging any parts on the transmission givien that it's designed to work after driving over a landmine.  The handbook suggests bumping up a kerb once ina while to reduce wind-up or driving accross gravel or grass.
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Disco Matt on November 04, 2009, 20:48:13
According to Wiki (which is usually fairly accurate on things like this) the Army used to carry a few railway sleepers on longer road moves. These would be laid in front of the Stolly to get the same effect. There was also a report of an unofficial technique involving kerbs in an empty car park...

Now, has anyone else heard the legend of the squaddie who, denied leave at an important time, decided to borrow one and attempt to drive home from Germany?  :lol:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: 90Mike on November 04, 2009, 20:59:52
I don't think you'd need to worry about damaging any parts on the transmission givien that it's designed to work after driving over a landmine.  The handbook suggests bumping up a kerb once ina while to reduce wind-up or driving accross gravel or grass.
Now thats my kind of handbook  :D i love these things, ever since i watched salvage squad i have wanted one but parking would be a bit of a issue
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 04, 2009, 21:49:10
Hubba Hubba..
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2009, 23:47:06
 Anyone really wants one, there is a pale blue prototype parked at the bottom of the diemalsee in Germany. Been there for about fourty years though, so probably a tad rotten.

 Two of the first ones did actually make it across   the channel slow and heavy on fuel.

 Pete
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 04, 2009, 23:59:22
My father-in-law wants one, as he was a driving instructor for them when he was in the Army, & stationed in Germany


It's on his 'to do/buy' list if he ever wins a reasonable amount on the Lottery
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Drift on November 05, 2009, 07:51:39
You really need to see one letting the axle wind up go in a gravel trap at the side o a road, makes impressive shower of gravel  :lol: you really dont want to be standing behind it  :shock:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 05, 2009, 10:45:33
There was a fairly scabby one when I went the scrap metal merchants a month or so ago. I wondered if someone had used it for the scrappage scheme!!
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Skibum346 on November 05, 2009, 12:44:40
Now, has anyone else heard the legend of the squaddie who, denied leave at an important time, decided to borrow one and attempt to drive home from Germany?  :lol:

Oh yes.... as I heard it... he ran out of juice... and waqited to be rescued/arrested... without realising he'd taken a fully laden POL wagon (Petrol, Oil, Lubricants)... there were hundreds of jerry cans in the back!   :doh:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: SteveGoodz on November 06, 2009, 19:10:42
Now, has anyone else heard the legend of the squaddie who, denied leave at an important time, decided to borrow one and attempt to drive home from Germany?  :lol:

According to my brother-in-law, who served in Germany during the 1970's, one of the lads in his regiment drove a Stally from Duisburg to Calais and was within sight of Dover when it ran out of fuel. I don't know if it's true, or not, but he does repeat the story from time to time :-)
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Terranger on November 08, 2009, 19:41:51
Just what these things were built for..., although, the drivers weren't told to be that enthusiastic entering the water.
I'm sure they used the same power-pack as a 432 troop-carrier..., but I might be wrong.

"Matchbox" made a model, with "BP" logos on the door..., so, maybe they used them for oil exploration in the Middle East.
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: stretchy on November 08, 2009, 20:41:32
what an awsome pice of kit. bit pants not haveing a diff though... how far would it take to wind up and break ???
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: JIMBOBLY on November 08, 2009, 21:29:41
stolleys are an awsome bit of kit,and it is true about the flames out of the exhaust,they have a rolls royce (b80)straight 8 petrol engine in them,around 4 to the gallon,just a pain to steer them,cause all three diffs,well,they arnt realy diffs,as they are direct drive,completely locked in other words,and one with a complete wading kit on,wont sink,at least you would like to think it wouldnt, :lol:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Pete on November 08, 2009, 23:31:54
 Passed one today. It's parked at the side of the road, just off Broadway in Wakefield.
 Pete
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: SteveGoodz on November 10, 2009, 19:58:31
Just what these things were built for..., although, the drivers weren't told to be that enthusiastic entering the water.
I'm sure they used the same power-pack as a 432 troop-carrier..., but I might be wrong.

"Matchbox" made a model, with "BP" logos on the door..., so, maybe they used them for oil exploration in the Middle East.

The Stally engine is a Rolls Royce 8 cylinder petrol job - maybe the same as Mk1 432(?) but I don't think so as the space in the engine bay of a 432 was pretty limited - which had a nasty habit of catching fire. No fun if you're loaded with jerry cans of petrol or bag charges for MBT ammunition :-)
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: Little-Green-Machine on November 10, 2009, 20:07:50
would prove an interesting mix :lol:
Title: Re: Can't believe this didn't sink
Post by: JIMBOBLY on November 10, 2009, 20:28:39
Just what these things were built for..., although, the drivers weren't told to be that enthusiastic entering the water.
I'm sure they used the same power-pack as a 432 troop-carrier..., but I might be wrong.

"Matchbox" made a model, with "BP" logos on the door..., so, maybe they used them for oil exploration in the Middle East.

The Stally engine is a Rolls Royce 8 cylinder petrol job - maybe the same as Mk1 432(?) but I don't think so as the space in the engine bay of a 432 was pretty limited - which had a nasty habit of catching fire. No fun if you're loaded with jerry cans of petrol or bag charges for MBT ammunition :-)
if you mean the fv 432,they had the 4.2 jag engine in them,as the same as the sultan troop carriers,and the sabre tanks,they arnt the same engine as the jag cars though,they have had the compression alterd for better bottom end torque,the valves and pistons are stronger,and the whole lot is water proofed,and as for the carbs,they're huge
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