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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: lambert on November 05, 2009, 22:29:46
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how advisable is it to use a farm jack to lift a standard disco? side jacking is out through lack of suitable locations but would the bumpers take the strain? also if the bumpers are up to it are the bumper hook adaptors you can get worth bothering with? finaly are the branded jacks really that much better than non branded ones?
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I wouldnt use a farm jack on standard disco bumpers or sills they only plastic after all and not designed for such use
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About the easiest option for using a ladder jack on a disco would be bolt on adaptors that mount directly onto the chassis. These provide a tube that a jack adaptor can fit into like a defender chassis.
eg.
(http://home.halden.net/discovery/pics/jackmate.jpg)
These have the bonus of interoperating good recovery points as well.
Some steering guards also include recovery and jacking points.
With ladder jacks maintenance is worth more than brand in my experience, though I haven't done much with cheaper brands to really compare. A genuine Hilift or Jackall though aren't particularly expensive. Clean the dirt off and spray all the mechanism with lubricant regularly and they work well, unlike one Hi-lift I borrowed which had probably never been lubricated since it left the factory.
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they look ideal where makes/sells them?
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I have to say from past experience the tube adapters, steering guard, bumpers etc. make a big difference as not only do they give a good solid point with the chassis, but they also stop the jack from wandering/slipping when in use. I have used in the past on a tow bar plate, but only as a last resort, and it was a bit nerve racking as the jack got higher and grip looked a bit iffy.
I have a Jackall, had it now for about 6 years, and as stated maintenance is well worth it, especially when lowering again. I must say though, that it works better these days now that a lot of the paint has been rubbed off from the ladder bit, as this used to cause some sticking when new.
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The 300 Series bumpers did include a jacking point for the standard LR jack as used on the Defender. Take the over-rider off and there is is in the end of the crush can.
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About the easiest option for using a ladder jack on a disco would be bolt on adaptors that mount directly onto the chassis. These provide a tube that a jack adaptor can fit into like a defender chassis.
eg.
(http://home.halden.net/discovery/pics/jackmate.jpg)
These have the bonus of interoperating good recovery points as well.
Some steering guards also include recovery and jacking points.
With ladder jacks maintenance is worth more than brand in my experience, though I haven't done much with cheaper brands to really compare. A genuine Hilift or Jackall though aren't particularly expensive. Clean the dirt off and spray all the mechanism with lubricant regularly and they work well, unlike one Hi-lift I borrowed which had probably never been lubricated since it left the factory.
Like the look of them :D anyone know if they could be fitted to a D2 :?could do with some good recovery points at the front & the hi-lify jack bit would make life easier for me
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I've got a set of these jack-mates (as per the picture above) that were on my 300Tdi Discovery - replaced by a steering guard with them built-in. If anyones interested in them just pm me with an offer. Postage will be high as they're not light :)
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to be honest I think if your going to mess around adding them on the front you may aswell just get a HD bumper or i think i have seen a steering gaurd with jacking tubes on. idealy if you think about it if you are stuck in the soup and only have points at the front you will be in the soup also but with side ponts/rock sliders you will be on the bank or at the point before it got to boggy atleast. (in my expiriance anyways) when I first started out with no jacking points I used to put the jack just levle with the top of the wheel then put a chain throgh the wheel and hook it on the jack and get it up that way then chock up the axle and lower it back down if it was a wheel change. I have even used it as a winch with some strops atached to it. the hilift is a very handy peice of kit. look after them they will look after you
stretchy
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where they appeal to me is in their sleeper look, they are not obviously off road and therefor allow thee car to look stock but with the added benefit of being stronger/better if i really need them. if you see what i mean?
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Yeap, I've fitted them to a couple of RRC with the front spoiler still in place, one of them had the towbar drop-plate adapter too.
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rrb where did you get them from, cos i can't find any on google?
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First pair I got from Bush Tucker man.
Second pair form E-Bay. I think either Wizard or Guardian have made some at some point too :-k the ones pictured above I think are from Dave Bowyer (goodwinch).
The only picture on Google brings you back to this page :roll:
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On the back, you can add this to the Southdown style tank guard
http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p2089c50/0/southdown-hi-lift-recovery-eye-for-disco-1-/-rrc.html
And IIRC FirstFOur used to make an adapter plate for a standard towbar.
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The pic above is linked from an individuals web page. If you right click on any internet pic and select properties, you will get its location. The page it came from only mentioned David bowyer as a supplier of these jack mates.
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On the back, you can add this to the Southdown style tank guard
http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p2089c50/0/southdown-hi-lift-recovery-eye-for-disco-1-/-rrc.html
And IIRC FirstFOur used to make an adapter plate for a standard towbar.
Has anyone seen anythig else like this but for vehicles with no tank guard?
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so far only thing like one of those i have found is the mod done to the camel car's rear bumper to fit the 5tonne hitch.
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Yes, the First FOur one I think, it bolted behind your towball.
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(http://home.halden.net/discovery/pics/jackmate.jpg)
I have a set of these bolt on chassis jacking/recovery points for sale. the same as in the photo.
They cost £60-70 when new, are a bit muddy with a bit of flakey paint, made out of 10mm steel and solid as a rock..!
They will fit 200/300 discovery or RRC chassis
PM me if you are interested £25, they're bloody heavy so collection is probably best (Birmingham)
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iv had experiance with the genuin highlift (myown ) and a tmax the highlift is stronget and better quality
i have sean one tmax bend and crack on and off road course
also what do you want one for if its just to change a wheel ect dont waist your cash they are dangerous
and i wouldnt want to use one on the side of the road you are beeter off with a decent botle jack and a waffle board
james
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the cheap onse are more dangurus be warned had one drop a trailer a foot to the floor i promptly gave it back to the bloke trying to sell it me! i have a jackall and never had any proplems hi lift as just as good maybe better but thay are very unstable but have lots of uses id be lost without mine.