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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on November 15, 2009, 19:33:42

Title: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on November 15, 2009, 19:33:42: Anybody know of their whereabouts - all I can find is legal jargon.
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: landmannnn on November 16, 2009, 20:49:26: kit car forums are great for such things, here you go...
(http://westfield-world.com/Pix/Lighting-Back.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: mattyme on November 16, 2009, 21:03:29: does this mean we cant mount rear tail and brake lights on the back of a roof rack then?
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: J.D. on November 16, 2009, 21:41:59: Quote from: mattyme on November 16, 2009, 21:03:29
does this mean we cant mount rear tail and brake lights on the back of a roof rack then?

I've got roof beacons with tail, brake and indicators rear facing inbuilt into them and never failed MOT or been told off by the dibble :D
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: Disco-Ron on November 16, 2009, 21:46:18: I think you can put additional lights up there./............. but not the only ones...........
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 16, 2009, 23:59:37: Quote from: mattyme on November 16, 2009, 21:03:29
does this mean we cant mount rear tail and brake lights on the back of a roof rack then?

Only on a Westfield :lol:
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: landmannnn on November 18, 2009, 22:00:23: Quote from: mattyme on November 16, 2009, 21:03:29
does this mean we cant mount rear tail and brake lights on the back of a roof rack then?

The pic suggests that the max height for brakes and sidelights is 1500mm, so the answer is no.
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: landroverkeith on November 19, 2009, 07:13:03: :roll:
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: trecfive on November 19, 2009, 14:13:50: Quote from: landmannnn on November 18, 2009, 22:00:23
Quote from: mattyme on November 16, 2009, 21:03:29
does this mean we cant mount rear tail and brake lights on the back of a roof rack then?

The pic suggests that the max height for brakes and sidelights is 1500mm, so the answer is no.

I think there is a word missing about the statement above.The maximum height for obligatory brake and sidelights is 1500mm.So if they are an addition the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: clbarclay on November 19, 2009, 18:13:50: The IVA manual is a better source. If you want to make or seriously modify a vehicle for use on the public highway then it will be tested according to this. MOT tests only test the very basic features safety and emission related aspects of a car. Just because a car can pass an MOT doesn't mean its road legal. As I understand it the "Construction and Use" regulations are the definitive source of vehicle light requirements, but every time I've tried to read them all I archived was a headache.

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/repository/M1%20Inspection%20Manual%20May%2009.pdf
All the requirements for lights are on pages 157 to 200, sections 20 to 30.

Regards stick rear lights on roof racks
For direction indicators see pages 175 and 176 for positional requirements. Basically there are no restrictions as to where additional indicators can be placed.
For stop and tail lights see page 172. Again you are pretty much free to add an additional pair of stop and tail lights anywhere on the back of the vehicle.
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: bilge rat on November 19, 2009, 22:30:50: slightly different regarding beacons . i had a flashing mag mount beacon whilst towing and was pulled saying i couldnt use it because it wasnt a registered tow vehicle ??. any one shed any light :doh: on this ?
Title: Re: Rear lighting position regulations - can't find them
Post by: maggers on November 20, 2009, 22:09:43: MMM, It's a bit of a grey area but basically you are'nt supposed to use beacons etc while actually towing. Sounds daft but they are only for use while hooking or loading up. Additional lights are fine as long as the originals are still fitted but their operation becomes covered by the MOT. ;)