Mud-club
Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Axetamer on December 04, 2009, 19:28:25
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Hi put a new tyre on today, the 8th one I've done using this method, there a link to a vid of me doing it on u-tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDjo03ra34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDjo03ra34)
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Its all very well as long as the bead breaks,but cant fault you! Im sick of being ripped off by garages who make you wait for ages to do a 2 minute job.Im investing in a tyre machine soon so stuff em!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Breaking the bead seems to be the hardest bit. The last time I took a tyre to be changed (the old one was delaminating) the garage took a few goes to get it loose! :shock:
I have seen a device to fit onto the base of a hilift jack for this purpose but they only seemed to be sold to South Africa.
How do you go about getting them balanced - just go to a Kwik Fit or similar and pay the standard wheel balancing charge?
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I wouldn't bother balancing them mate, I always do my muds and ATs at home with levers :)
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I have changed a few tyres using the hilift method - i used to run them over before then!
i found whenfitting a new tyre the hardest bit could be inflating the new tyre and seating it - sometimes new tyres are a little squashed, so a ratchet strap around them can help them on their way.
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fair one i reckon! :)
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I don't bother having them balanced either, they get ripped apart playing which screws the balancing anyway
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i used to do em like that but now use a beadbreaker attachment on the highlift, had some cash so I bought one- same method just nicer and less risk of wall damage as it fit bolts to bottom of jack base and fit snug up against rim. It's the same south African product matt mentioned, but UK supplier.
http://www.beadbreaker.co.uk/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxZeGs9xjpc
Decent sized levers like u got there are god send (i got my from farm supplies).
One thing... all the tyres I have done... not once needed to use lube. Can't say it's ever needed. Also never fancied putting salty washing-up liquid into rim!
I balanced my anacondas with plastic airsoft BB's and it works well for tubeless and will dynamically self balance even when you lose knobbles off tyre. About 8oz of them in each tyre.
I used to reseat the tyre back on rim with a bit of easy start :lol: I would again if I had too, but I found my heavy duty tyre pump actual reseats the anacondas onto white rim by itself or with aid of strap without any hassle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cXpnGbz4M
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oo into the landy bit ;)
High lift on the bead and jack off the tow bar.
Balance with 400 grams of bb shot.
Jobs a good un ;)
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See, I do a lot of road miles in mine and I don't tend to hang around much. So I think I'll need to get them properly balanced when I next change tyres! I want to go to 245/75 R16 Kumho KL71s, so won't hit the problems people have with extreme mud patterns.
Might get one of those bead breakers as a handy thing to own though. I did once try to remove a tyre which had a big hole in the sidewall using my hilift and towbar but couldn't get the bead to break.
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See, I do a lot of road miles in mine and I don't tend to hang around much. So I think I'll need to get them properly balanced when I next change tyres! I want to go to 245/75 R16 Kumho KL71s, so won't hit the problems people have with extreme mud patterns.
Might get one of those bead breakers as a handy thing to own though. I did once try to remove a tyre which had a big hole in the sidewall using my hilift and towbar but couldn't get the bead to break.
Just keep on working around. I've never failed to brake a bead (changed dozens and dozens of tyres this way), but sometimes it can take several attempts at different points on the side wall before it goes, that and the back of the truck being in the air ;)
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never failed to break a bead with hilift here either but have had some tough ones (old hard as hell tyres on ancient rusty Series II rims were worst!) , if rotating doesn't help no need to go silly and crush it down , weight of truck with jack in right place and leaving it like that for a wee while to let it think about the error of it ways seems to bring it around.
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oo into the landy bit ;)
High lift on the bead and jack off the tow bar.
Balance with 400 grams of bb shot.
Jobs a good un ;)
is bb shot the stuff you can buy for balanceing tyres or a cheeper alternative?
Iv chaanged my own tyres for a few years now but balanceing has always been a problem.
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You can buy the special beads or use bb shot.
You must have the same weight of either so it if using bb shot, you may need a lot of them
Mine arnt ballanced but when they need it, i will use beads
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[!Expletive Deleted!] that boys make friends with someone at a local tire place and give them a "drink" i used to cut tires of rims with a petrol disc cutter even took ages.
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i tryed to take a load of bald tyres off their rims last year, broke the bead no problems with a highlift and a tractor, but no way could i get them off after that, even with 5 footlevers. kwickfit change, balance and fit em back on the truck for a tenner each if you pay in the correct way :wink: thats where ill get mine done next time
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i take the valves out then drive in a circle that breaks the bead easy as pie
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And a good chance of wrecking the tyre walls!!!
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[!Expletive Deleted!] that boys make friends with someone at a local tire place and give them a "drink" i used to cut tires of rims with a petrol disc cutter even took ages.
couldn't agree more the lads at the local quickfit are on crap money
and with the credit crunch are allways skint
I pay a fiver ballanced with a new valve ( cash in hand)
and there allways pleased to see me
plus when you price up tyres for the mrs runabout I get a great deal
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And a good chance of wrecking the tyre walls!!!
not if your carefull its not much difference to getting a punture
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And a good chance of wrecking the tyre walls!!!
if your fitting new tyres does it matter
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i take the valves out then drive in a circle that breaks the bead easy as pie
LOL. your a funny man.
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i take the valves out then drive in a circle that breaks the bead easy as pie
LOL. your a funny man.
ah but you know it works hey ;)
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£10 to change and balance a tyre :shock: :shock: :shock:
fking hell, I bet I could change them all before you've even got your car to kwikfit ramp.
The reason you couldn't get the tyre off the rim is because you didn't have the bead in the dip when you tried to take it off, so you were trying to strech the (steel re-enforced) bead around the rim.
Yeah bb shot, as in the plastic stuff. It's about £5 for a kilo, you'll need about 1 1/2 kilo's to balance a 33 - 35 inch tyre. Kitchen scales are more than accurate enough for weighing it out ;)