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Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: the loon on April 18, 2005, 20:39:02
wll they just put a rangie sport up against a horse
no mud tires on the rangie Tiff Niddle driving like hes at silverstone spining like a spinny thing and they say the rangie didnt live up to its promises

yeah I think we can draw our own conclusions
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: JeepCher53 on April 18, 2005, 20:40:55
When was that shown? If there's a link I'd like a look at that :x
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: the loon on April 18, 2005, 20:41:54
Quote from: "ladyfreebie"
When was that shown? If there's a link I'd like a look at that :x

just been on TV about 2 minutes ago
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Xtremeteam on April 18, 2005, 20:43:12
Tiff needles = T1T
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: hingmy on April 18, 2005, 20:43:40
on road stuff looked good, but the off-road test - while a nice idea - was poorly executed. Having played with one I can assure they are way better than he made them out to be. Once again 5th gear should be renamed parking gear. But what the hell its yet more infotainment so why should we really care?
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: the loon on April 18, 2005, 20:46:35
Quote from: "hingmy"
on road stuff looked good, but the off-road test - while a nice idea - was poorly executed. Having played with one I can assure they are way better than he made them out to be. Once again 5th gear should be renamed parking gear.

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and do we all know the answer to the question?
4x4 stands for what?
four windscreen wipers
four wheel drive
or four stearing wheels

dont all rush for the PREMIUM rate number to call now

 ](*,)
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: jimbob on April 18, 2005, 20:48:11
Muddy fields and slick road tyres = no no.

Looked nice though & i want one  :twisted:
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Colin 009 on April 18, 2005, 20:48:25
Lokk at least that Fat Ttwa didn't get his hands on it :evil:

I thought Tiff was very fare with what he said.

Oh and their giving a classic Range Rover away  :(shades):
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Xtremeteam on April 18, 2005, 20:51:51
just found out 2day that the owner of a disco i chipped has just bought a rangie sport
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on April 18, 2005, 21:17:53
Whilst, as as stated previously, it was a nice idea as a comparison.

At least he did state that the tyres were a major factor, but given the major 'blowing of trumpets' over it's off-tarmac performance I expected better from the technology.

'Top Gear' (or was it one of Clarksons own programmes?) did it better before with the Overfinch racing the ??(can't remember) whilst on grass -admittedly dry grass.
They also raced against a Focus whilst towing a flat-bed loaded with another Focus :lol:

Ahh. the 'Classic' Range Rover, a 'L' plate Vogue LSE, but pre-'soft-dash'

I'd ditch the Discovery tomorrow for a decent Tdi 'Classic'
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Range Rover Blues on April 19, 2005, 00:11:49
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"


Ahh. the 'Classic' Range Rover, a 'L' plate Vogue LSE, but pre-'soft-dash'



Oh yes indeed, I'd even put up with slaughtermatic for a nice LSE, but not an oil burner, one has standards after all.
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Donald the Disco on April 19, 2005, 01:22:24
Once again 5th Gear shows its self to be a complete waste of space
on TV.

Tif Needell, what a twonk !!  spinning the wheels like that to pull away
surely, pulling away slowly and then speeding up would have given the "traction control"  some sort of helping hand....
Granted ......slick road tyres are not the best thing to use on a soaking wet field...........Why did they even try it ??
And as for the down hill bit.........
"feet of everything and hands free"............I was always told to hold onto
steering wheel to correct any possible slide............oh well !!

I'll hand over the soap box to the next person
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: muddyweb on April 19, 2005, 10:00:22
OK... far be it from me to disagree with the consensus ;-)  but bear in mind that this is a television programme.   The item is designed to be gimmicky, to  provide entertainment and to get people talking about the show (seems to have worked)...   It isn't supposed to be a proper test of the vehicle.

I wonder if there would have been this much outcry if the piece was run the same way but with a Pajero instead ?
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: JeepCher53 on April 19, 2005, 10:13:10
Is there an email address to respond to this? Ask them to take an off road course before they make themselves look even more stupid than they are :evil:   There's plenty of experience in this club to do that.  Before hubby (Tazman) took the then Shogun off road, he booked himself on a course in the Forest of Dean for a whole day.  You wouldn't get in an artic and drive off - 4x4s are NOT the same as a Ford Focus :shock:   Plus, yet again, it paints us all with that familiar brush :(
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Dave on April 19, 2005, 13:57:15
Well i think it did well every other car tiff drives breaks. Nice classic in the competition my name's on that one for the next wicked whaddon trip.
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: ChrisW on April 19, 2005, 14:40:24
Yes it got people talking BUT who actually stated in the programme that it was a gimmicky silly bit, don't do it at home - ISTR saying something similar when they thrashed the LR3 all over the place - whats to stop normal (well, affluent anyway) people watching it, going out and buying one (or any "off road vehicle / 4x4 / SUV etc. etc.") and then thrashing it all over the place because "that's how they do it on TV"  :?:

More fuel for the fire  :evil:
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Thrasher on April 19, 2005, 14:48:08
Anyone got a wet and muddy field?? <grin>
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: muddyweb on April 19, 2005, 15:05:52
Quote from: "ChrisW70"
......who actually stated in the programme that it was a gimmicky silly bit, don't do it at home - ISTR saying something similar when they thrashed the LR3 all over the place - whats to stop normal (well, affluent anyway) people watching it, going out and buying one....  and then thrashing it all over the place because "that's how they do it on TV"  :?:


I don't need to be told what to do and what not to do by a TV programme thanks.....   I happen to have a big 4x4 and a wet muddy field... and horses...  but I have no intention of trying it because I have a sufficient intelligence not to, and I take responsibility for my own actions  :shock:
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Thrasher on April 19, 2005, 15:08:13
/me hatches a plan :-)

Can I prove to Tiff that launching a powerful V8 off on wet grass can be done....if you do it PROPERLY :-)
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 19, 2005, 17:37:22
Of course, Tim is right (yet again  :roll:  :lol: ). It is meant to be entertainment first, educational second. If you want to buy a Vectra, you go out and test one. You certainly don't wait for Tiff to test drive one on TV. I have never seen these programs as consumer fodder, just light entertainment.

The comparison of 'soft-roaders' (hate that term!) was much the same. Loads of throttle up a slightly muddy slope and stopped half way up. No surprises there then.

The blasting around a field doesn't give me too much problem. More concerned over the Disco 3 article a while back that specifically said to find a green lane and get muddy.
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: johnniep on April 19, 2005, 21:31:53
what made me laugh, 1) hes a raceing driver apparently!!
2)it was the top of the range 4.2 v8
3) it was on road tyres in a wet feild
now nomatter what 4x4 u get no matter how great it is , it isnt gunna go like a porshe off the line especially when uve got ur foot 2 the floor like e had!, n especially with all that power throught those tyres,
it makes u laugh, u gotta otherwise u'd b crying at there lameness!
j.p :twisted:
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on April 19, 2005, 21:35:01
Quote from: "johnniep"
what made me laugh, 1) hes a raceing driver apparently!!



Ermm, yes he is.
He has had (at least) oneseason in Formula 1, races at Le Mans.

V B-H also has a 'background'; karts, single-seaters, single-make championships. Her brother also is quite succesful (I understand) on the track
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: ChrisW on April 19, 2005, 22:05:08
Tim you're dead right - trouble is tho *we* all know what we should and shouldn't do - its the plebs and hooligans that are giving us a bad name in other aspects of owning a 4x4 that are the one's that need to be told and unfortunately due to the nature of these people's mentality they won't be told anyway.
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: ChrisW on April 19, 2005, 22:11:05
Quote from: "muddyweb"
I happen to have a big 4x4 and a wet muddy field... and horses...  but I have no intention of trying it because I have a sufficient intelligence not to


Me too - I have no intention of driving it either tho but more because my Mum would shout at me (and she did turf Elwyn out of the tack room once
 :(scared): )

 :(biglaugh):
Title: another duff test from 5th gear
Post by: bigant on April 20, 2005, 11:14:10
did anyone see 5th gear when they put the new rangy up against a new fiat pander 4x4 oh it hurt the fiat shouldn't have evemn been in the same muddy hole. :o
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