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Title: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 20, 2010, 09:15:21
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving. Filling up today i payed 120p I didn't think it was that bad concidering it's 14 years later, so I dug out some inflation figures for the UK, which also came across a nice calculator.

http://safalra.com/other/historical-uk-inflation-price-conversion/

Just on inflation alone, nothing to do with the oil issues surrounding the gulf war or the oil companies holiding back production a few years ago, the environmental issues, the cost of drilling for shale... we would be 90p a litre now.

Only in the past month or two has the price gone up 10p a liter or so.

IMO, fuel prices are about where they should be from the prices we were paying in the middle of the 90's.

I know that the cost of many things surrounding driving have gone down (car's, insurance, spares) in that period and some have stayed about the same (tax - give or take), so really I don't feel that I'm being persecuted for driving at all.  I do know that my sallary has increased during that period, and as a % of a cost of living, the money i spend of keeping a car on the road has dropped!

I'm going to be the only one who thinks this aren't I?
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 20, 2010, 09:44:23
I'm going to be the only one who thinks this aren't I?

where's the forums *BURN THE HERETIC* emoticon ?
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 20, 2010, 09:49:40
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Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 20, 2010, 09:51:47
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Appears to be enjoying being tickled by the stick way too much - suppose it a distraction from the melting.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Lumbering Jack on April 20, 2010, 10:55:28
What amazed me the other day was I could buy Diesel on the Isle of Skye cheaper than I can buy it in town here - 300 and odd miles further south with a much denser population  :huh:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: MuddyMike on April 20, 2010, 18:13:18
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving.

It was five bob a gallon when I bought my first tankfull.

So, who will be first to reply with how much a liter five bob a gallon works out to?

Mike
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 20, 2010, 18:21:35
I've just done it from a 1968 price.

£3.60 a liter in todays money !!
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Manicminer on April 20, 2010, 19:46:51
£1.24/L here
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: tim_aka_tim on April 20, 2010, 20:27:13
46p/litre here (at todays exchnge rate), which is outrageous cus it was half that 9 months ago.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: john656 on April 20, 2010, 21:29:32
1.21 for diesel
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: mass199 on April 20, 2010, 22:14:03
Whilst the weather is warm i'm going going back on the veg oil.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 21, 2010, 09:51:51
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving.

It was five bob a gallon when I bought my first tankfull.

So, who will be first to reply with how much a liter five bob a gallon works out to?

Mike

5.5p per litre. Am I really so sad I actually sat down and worked it out??  :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 21, 2010, 10:05:11
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving.

It was five bob a gallon when I bought my first tankfull.

So, who will be first to reply with how much a liter five bob a gallon works out to?

Mike

5.5p per litre. Am I really so sad I actually sat down and worked it out??  :lol:

27p a litre converted to modern money though isn't it?
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 21, 2010, 11:32:03
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving.

It was five bob a gallon when I bought my first tankfull.

So, who will be first to reply with how much a liter five bob a gallon works out to?

Mike

5.5p per litre. Am I really so sad I actually sat down and worked it out??  :lol:

27p a litre converted to modern money though isn't it?

No. Bob was a Shilling which became 5p. 25p/4.54=5.5p per litre.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 21, 2010, 11:37:13
But there was also 240 pennies in the old poud, which would need converting over to the decimal pound.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 21, 2010, 11:40:42
 :lol: :lol:

So what this tells us is that depending on how you use the figures, different results can be obtained. I wonder if the government have thought of this???  :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 21, 2010, 11:49:48
Was speaking to a guy yeasturday who was saying that in '68 a tank of fuel for his car cost about 1/2 his weekly wages. There wasn't many cars around in the 60's which had 80 > 100L fuel tanks either.


Kind puts it into perspective a little IMO.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 21, 2010, 13:03:58
I bought a 4.2 XJ6 when I was about 18. I remember filling both tanks when I first bought it and having the shock of my life when it got to £60 IIRC. Now it cost me that to fill the relatively tiny tank in the 90.

I take your point about wages though. Filling the Jag 28 or so years ago took a painful percentage of my wages. Now, filling a tank just hurts because I know most of it goes to a wasteful government.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: MuddyMike on April 22, 2010, 17:44:05
I've been thinking about the price of fuel this morning. It was 60p a liter when I started driving.

It was five bob a gallon when I bought my first tankfull.

So, who will be first to reply with how much a liter five bob a gallon works out to?

Mike

5.5p per litre. Am I really so sad I actually sat down and worked it out??  :lol:

Spot on. Five bob was indeed five shillings or 25 new pence per gallon. Divided by 4.54 (liters in a gallon) makes it 5.5p per liter.
A year later I paid nine pounds and ten shillings for a Morris traveler, and it came with 3 months tax and a years MOT!!!

Mike
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 23, 2010, 00:32:35
over 240.... makes it about 20 odd p a litre....
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 23, 2010, 07:28:05
over 240.... makes it about 20 odd p a litre....

you can keep repeating it but none are listening to your 240 pennis in the pound heresy - be gone with you  :grin:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 23, 2010, 10:33:11
over 240.... makes it about 20 odd p a litre....

you can keep repeating it but none are listening to your 240 pennis in the pound heresy - be gone with you  :grin:

Yeah, who is this dxmedia anyway?  :twisted: :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 23, 2010, 10:40:42
pah to all your modern fangled metrics
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: crazymac on April 26, 2010, 09:55:44
What amazed me the other day was I could buy Diesel on the Isle of Skye cheaper than I can buy it in town here - 300 and odd miles further south with a much denser population  :huh:

Thats actually quite simple! They get less deliveries, and they only up their price when the delivery arrives! (At least small communities do, the large towns cash in by upping the price no matter what they paid for the load!)

What you can get though is large hikes, £1.15 two weeks ago, new delivery arrives and it jumps to £1.20 whereas in the towns and cities the price will rise progressively day by day.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dazzawhipple on April 29, 2010, 04:18:22
$1.35 per liter here .........Aus dollars
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: lurch_917 on April 29, 2010, 13:08:14
just to add to the pot why we are now paying over the odds for  fuel is the fact that it is mainly now 5-7% bio wich the producers get a enviromental tax cut for as they are making green fuel and this isnt being passed on just look at say bp proffit margin and then say were not being robbed
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 10:24:09
You've missed the point of this thread  :lol:

I was saying we're NOT paying over the odds for fuel.


I'll go back to building the bondfire and climb up it....
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 30, 2010, 11:49:40
You've missed the point of this thread  :lol:

I was saying we're NOT paying over the odds for fuel.


I'll go back to building the bondfire and climb up it....

... just burn already :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Mud_Medic on April 30, 2010, 12:04:12
DX Media.

There were 240 old pennies in a pound, but a shilling was 12 old pence. There were 20 shillings in a pound.

A pound is 100 new pence. 1/20 of this is 5p.

Until the mint changed the 5p and 10p coint and made them smaller, 1 shilling and 2 shilling coins were still in circulation as legal tender at 5p and 10p respectively.

So 5 bob (shilling) per gallon or 4.545 litres means it is just over 1 bob per litre or 1/20 of a pound.

That means it is a little over 5p per liter, or the 5.5p/litre   

QED


Ed
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 12:32:18
DX Media.

There were 240 old pennies in a pound, but a shilling was 12 old pence. There were 20 shillings in a pound.

A pound is 100 new pence. 1/20 of this is 5p.

Until the mint changed the 5p and 10p coint and made them smaller, 1 shilling and 2 shilling coins were still in circulation as legal tender at 5p and 10p respectively.

So 5 bob (shilling) per gallon or 4.545 litres means it is just over 1 bob per litre or 1/20 of a pound.

That means it is a little over 5p per liter, or the 5.5p/litre   

QED


Ed


Still makes no sence ;)

I'm from the generation of inches, cm, KM's, miles, pounds, OZ's, grams and Kilo's, hectares and acres...  Measure small, metric, then imperial, then back to metric, and back to imperial again....  One thing I couldn't never get my head around was old money.


When old money became new money, surely the prices of things was also altered to reflect. Say a loaf of bread cost 50p or 10 bob in old money, that would translate to 20p <> in new money?
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 30, 2010, 13:06:06
When old money became new money, surely the prices of things was also altered to reflect. Say a loaf of bread cost 50p or 10 bob in old money, that would translate to 20p <> in new money?


No, something costing 10 bob became 50p.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 30, 2010, 13:08:28
When old money became new money, surely the prices of things was also altered to reflect. Say a loaf of bread cost 50p or 10 bob in old money, that would translate to 20p <> in new money?


No, something costing 10 bob became 50p.

Except everything was rounded up wasn't it? Remember my Grandad moaning about decimalisation of the currency ripping everyone off.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Mud_Medic on April 30, 2010, 13:22:45
I am too young to remember £ s d, I was not even walking when the change happened.

But.... It is not that difficult.

A pound is a pound.

That did not change.

Using your example, a loaf cost 10 bob, or half a pound.

That was 120d, or old pence

Half a pound is 50p or new pence.

A pound is a pound, but an old pence (d) is not a new pence (p)

An old silver sixpence (6d, half a shilling or 1/40 of a pound) is worth 2 1/2p (1/40 of a pound).

Money pit has it right!

Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 30, 2010, 13:25:16
Except everything was rounded up wasn't it? Remember my Grandad moaning about decimalisation of the currency ripping everyone off.

That wouldn't surprise me!


I am too young to remember £ s d, I was not even walking when the change happened.........


Money pit has it right!

That's because I am old enough.... only just though  :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 13:28:22
Right, so the goods were the constant not the money  :roll:

Bring on the euro and lets get it done right ;)   :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on April 30, 2010, 13:30:41
Bring on the euro and lets get it done right ;)   :lol: :lol:

right you're clearly not crisping up enough - bring on the napalm
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 14:17:05
 :lol:

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Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 30, 2010, 14:27:06
After dx's comments on mixed measures..... Am I alone is tending to use mm for small measurements and feet and miles for longer distances?

And have you noticed how we tend to use centigrade for low temps and fahrenheit for high temps?  "Ooo, it's minus 5 degrees" or "It's going to be in the 80's tomorrow"  :lol:
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 15:16:10
After dx's comments on mixed measures..... Am I alone is tending to use mm for small measurements and feet and miles for longer distances?

And have you noticed how we tend to use centigrade for low temps and fahrenheit for high temps?  "Ooo, it's minus 5 degrees" or "It's going to be in the 80's tomorrow"  :lol:

mm then inches, then feet, then meters, then miles.

Pint, Litres then gallons,

Grams, stone, then tonnes


It seems to be metric then imperial then metric and so on...

Just my tuppence ;)
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 30, 2010, 15:35:46
Ah, but is it tonnes or tons?  :lol:

But it's true, isn't it? We all tend to use different scales for different circumstances! I guess it will gradually all head over to metric in the next couple of generations. Except in the US, of course! And they have a different pint and gallon to us just to confuse people even more!
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on April 30, 2010, 16:46:52
Tonnes, I've no idea what a ton weights  :lol: :lol:  Something to do with hundredweights ;)

A tonne is a tonne is a tonne, 1 cubic meter of water.
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 30, 2010, 17:15:14
As it happens, there's not much in it....

1 tonne = 1.10231131 tons according to Google  converter. My phone app wouldn't do imperial tons!
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: tim_aka_tim on May 03, 2010, 22:42:20
Except in the US, of course! And they have a different pint and gallon to us just to confuse people even more!

The US uses the wine gallon as it's measure and has done since the early 1800s. However, the British
government decided to adopt the ale gallon (or close approximation thereof) in 1824. So we have a different
gallon because YOU changed yours!
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Llanigraham on May 04, 2010, 11:35:02
Don't work on the railway.....we still use miles and chains!!

(except the Cambrian line that is going over to km's!!)
Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: Saffy on May 04, 2010, 12:05:01
Don't work on the railway.....we still use miles and chains!!

(except the Cambrian line that is going over to km's!!)

Don't they still use coal, narrow gauge and a ticket clipper round your parts? :-#

ffestiniog railway just got one of these modern diesel burners (http://www.ffestiniograilway.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=273:rail-mounted-land-rover-quirk-confirmed&catid=3:news&Itemid=50)
(http://www.ffestiniograilway.org.uk/images/stories/qnc/landrover.jpg)

Title: Re: Price of fuel...
Post by: dxmedia on May 04, 2010, 12:41:26
Trust them German's to do it bigger !!


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