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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: lambert on September 09, 2010, 18:36:20

Title: two things
Post by: lambert on September 09, 2010, 18:36:20
first; what color are defender white wheels i.e. color code?

second; how would one permanantly attach rubber to stainless steel without bolts or screws i.e. what glue?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 09, 2010, 20:15:29
No glue I'm aware of will permenantly attach rubber to stainless.  They both have properties that make it difficult but try an impact adhesive for now.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Highland_Defender on September 10, 2010, 21:06:27
Whats the rubber for?

Lexel elastic adhesive does anything to anything, even if its wet

Or you could try sticks like poo
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Highland_Defender on September 10, 2010, 21:09:44
And Limestone white i think is the colour for the wheels, ive got a set to respray next week so i'll need to find the code too
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Highland_Defender on September 10, 2010, 21:15:31
I see paddocks sell the paint
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Highland_Defender on September 10, 2010, 21:16:50
The Dupont code is 38505A or landrover code RTC4044A   
Title: Re: two things
Post by: dxmedia on September 10, 2010, 22:12:33
Tiger seal?   That stuff sticks like....
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 12, 2010, 05:40:46
the idea is to hold a set of hubcaps in place by glueing rubber tube sleaves ot the inside that slide onto the wheel nuts and hold the caps on.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Saffy on September 12, 2010, 07:43:21
the idea is to hold a set of hubcaps in place by glueing rubber tube sleaves ot the inside that slide onto the wheel nuts and hold the caps on.
not going to happen
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 12, 2010, 08:59:30
oh, why not?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: boss on September 12, 2010, 09:24:22
zip ties?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Disco Matt on September 12, 2010, 10:43:37
I think it's down to the stresses the parts will be under while spinning at 60mph on the road. I can't really see the rubber hanging onto the nuts for long!
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 12, 2010, 16:01:28
ok then would blue plastic water pipe be better suited?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: fuzzy on September 12, 2010, 16:29:30
i really don't think anything like that would be able to put up with the centrifugal forces involved i'm afraid :-k I think boss is right, zip ties would do it but obviously you are trying to keep this invisible so don't know what to suggest
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Saffy on September 12, 2010, 17:22:42
ok then would blue plastic water pipe be better suited?

dude, NOTHING will bond those materials together for long if it purely an adhesive bond under stresses - might stick for awhile but the joint will age rapidly. If it was manufactured the synthetic material would by moulded and bonded in such a way to form a mechanical joint like an engine mount is.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 12, 2010, 19:13:05
ok then time for a rethink. would there be any safety/strength/legal implications to riviting on 3 spring type clips to the face of each wheel from the back through the upstand next to where the wheel nuts are?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 12, 2010, 19:35:24
Try and avoid doing it in the area between the centre flange (where the nuts are) and the outer edge of the cnetre disk, say where the vent holes are.  This area of the wheel is the most highly stressed.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 12, 2010, 20:44:54
ok then would welding on some clips be a stronger alternative (not that i really want to weld stuff to my rims if i can help it as even if painted it will eventually let the metal moth in)?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 12, 2010, 22:54:25
Welding=stress & weakness.

Remind me, what is it you want to fasten to the wheels :-k
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 13, 2010, 04:58:21
a set of 9" dia stainless steel hub caps off of a ford 100e from the 1960's. the idea being to hide just the drive flanges and wheel nuts on a set of defender 110 factory steel wheels.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 13, 2010, 22:46:47
I'm sure I've seen something like that before :-k

Anyhoo, could you mount them from the drive member.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: ChrisW70 on September 14, 2010, 08:37:35
I've seen a disco round by me with steel wheels and aftermarket wheel trims fitted...
Title: Re: two things
Post by: datalas on September 14, 2010, 17:00:10
Make a bracket that bolts onto the flange ?

don't have to go making holes in the wheels what way :)
Title: Re: two things
Post by: cooper956 on September 19, 2010, 22:50:21
carnt see why you would want to bother?
Title: Re: two things
Post by: lambert on September 20, 2010, 16:01:42
why? cos it's not been seen recently and i like a challenge.
Title: Re: two things
Post by: boss on September 20, 2010, 20:09:30
how about.....
welding some sort of clip or even a nut to the end of the flange, dont mess with the wheels as they hold you on the road
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