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Title: Gon2far
Post by: unknownmanxman on May 27, 2005, 14:07:26
Hi all,

Just saw that Gon2far suspension kit in this months LROI...
What does everyone think of it? Whats it like compared to scorpion racings setup?
Title: Gon2far
Post by: strapping young lad on May 27, 2005, 14:27:18
in a word

bl**dy expensive! for what you get
Title: Gon2far
Post by: thermidorthelobster on May 27, 2005, 15:21:38
That's 6 words...
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Ben on May 27, 2005, 16:02:38
The defender kit looks pretty good - yes it's expensive, but then it's a lot of kit for your money.

It's a 3 link set up, and the travel that it allows the front suspension is pretty impressive.

I'm not linked in any way to the guy that's designed it, but here's (http://www.550-spyder.co.uk/Landy%20Area/Landy.htm) his personal site...

Cheers

Ben
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Andy. on May 27, 2005, 16:16:46
Quote from: "strapping young lad"
in a word

bl**dy expensive! for what you get


In more than one word......................

................£1395  :shock:

It also says that there is a seperate kit for the rear axle, so what are you getting for your money, apart from a free big spannner  :lol:
Title: Gon2far
Post by: unknownmanxman on May 27, 2005, 16:25:07
It seems alot more complicated than the Scorpion one... There are alot more big metal bits, including the big spanner!! :)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Guy90 on May 27, 2005, 16:34:28
I think what he is offering is increased travel at the front. The Scropion kit offers more travel at the back than the front.

Paul wightman designed his own 3 link front and the two look similar. Specialist Leisure offer the Safari Guard kit which is superb but even more expensive.

Having seen the the stuff at Gaydon. You have to ask yourself do you need so much travel. It's about equally out the travel between back and front. The more level the car is the more sucessfully you will travel across the ground.
Title: Gon2far
Post by: strapping young lad on May 27, 2005, 16:45:38
tbh if you want a lorra travel in both front and back then its worth making up a vehicle from scratch and build from there.

if you look on the net and see how the yanks do it (pirate4x4.com) you will see a lot build custom vehicles.

or is it mainly for show the reasoning for having it in the UK?

dont see many moab's round here.. do you?
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Littledan on May 27, 2005, 19:07:17
i love the 90 with the full roll cage  :(biglove):
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2005, 19:52:26
I like it a lot
If only i had cash to burn. I'd have it with the scorpion extreme kit on the rear end
Look here (http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Jake/gallery/jake14/0/230460-1114967140.) for a picture
 8)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: muky-kid. on May 27, 2005, 20:35:15
:D Dont get me wrong the kits do look good, but i think a 4x4 with some type of diff lockers fitted would be just as capable over tough terrain than one with all that kit fitted. OK you might get a wheel or two waveing about in the air but at least the power gets to the wheel/wheels still in contact with the ground therefore you should still have momemtom to get through said obstacle.

Thats my theory anyway... or am i talking out of my a***  :lol:
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2005, 20:40:58
Not at all
Its each to their own here!
I'd personally love that kit. and i'd put lockers on too.
As of yet i have'nt won the lottery so i'll just keep dreaming.
 :shock:
Title: Gon2far
Post by: muky-kid. on May 27, 2005, 20:46:26
:lol: Yeah it would be nice to have both, but i think ill save up for now to get an ARB Locker for the rear for now and see how she goes before i think about thurther suspention mods etc...  :D
Great pic by the way.  8)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2005, 20:49:20
Cheers.
which one? the gon2far 90 or Mark Evans 100" in my avatar?
 8)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: muky-kid. on May 27, 2005, 20:53:31
:D Both look good Jake.....  8)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Littledan on May 27, 2005, 22:01:24
Quote from: "Jake"
Cheers.
which one? the gon2far 90 or Mark Evans 100" in my avatar?
 8)


i perfer the gon2far one  :(biglove): :(biglove): :(biglove):

i would have that any day  :lol:
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2005, 22:02:52
although Marks 100" hybrid is sooooooo lovely!!
(but i know what you mean, the gon2far 90 is just stunning)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Littledan on May 27, 2005, 22:04:40
Quote from: "Jake"
although Marks 100" hybrid is sooooooo lovely!!
(but i know what you mean, the gon2far 90 is just stunning)


it sure is

its just different  8)  and lovely :lol:
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Porny on May 28, 2005, 00:20:39
Having driven it.. it goes well too!!!

Infact, my claim to fame is that's got my old (well as new tailgate on it) and my 'unwanted' Disco rear axle....

Andy's truck is very smart, and he's a clever bloke - though I admit do you really need that much travel??  
A landy will get just as far with a locking diff or even ETC - although it will have a wheel (or two) in the air.

IMHO, although I do like his 90" (tis nice with the V8 and the Autobox) it is a bit 'bling' for my liking... I'd rather go for the more subtle approach.

Overall, it is a very smart bit of kit though  :D  :D


Ian
Title: Gon2far
Post by: datalas on May 30, 2005, 08:47:28
tum tee too...

Seems a little bit of an over the top way to get serious droop steer, broken uj's and the cornering abilities of a very tall sail boat...

but perhaps that's just my opinion :)

An interesting motor it has to be said, even if you don't aggree with quite all the attachments.

Although, if you want "interesting" solutions to some of the more common problems take a look at the serious challenge trucks.  They have the added advantage of not being created solely to look pretty on TV.
Title: Gon2far
Post by: lowey on May 30, 2005, 20:29:02
Does anybody know
1) how the Gone2far suspension affects vehicle handling on tarmac?
2) How insurance companies will assess a conversion & load the premium on it?
Title: Gon2far
Post by: datalas on May 30, 2005, 20:40:36
I would imagine (and this is purely a guess)

1)  Quite badly,  I would have thought,  not so much for the dislocation element, but for the fact that the springs and shocks are deliberately soft to increase articulation.  This is, ironically the exact opposite of tarmac driving where you want less articulation and stiffer springs.

2) I would imagine that 99.9% of insurance companies wouldn't touch you with someone elses bargepole, then again that's true of *most* suspension modifications.  I would guess that the more reasonably insurance companies, or at least the ones that "understand" vehicles would be reasonably accomodating, although for such an "extreme" modification they might ask politely for an engineers report.  That said, they might not, although it might not be a bad idea to get one anyhow :)
Title: Gon2far
Post by: Eeyore on May 31, 2005, 11:18:43
Any three link front end will have SERIOUS detriment on your handling on the road. I belive in the U.S. three link front ends have a mandatory max road speed of 40mph, such is there belief in the system. Yes, they do provide some rocking great travel, but at a penalty.

IMHO, if you must go for extreme suspension travel, dislocation provides a much safer mechanism (not withstanding the really soft springs that folk often use)  - now whether you beleive dislocation is of any benefit isn't a discussion I'm getting into to (needless to say it's been covered in other threads), I'm just saying it isn't a bad for road manners!

Another tuppence into the pot!
cheers
 8)
Eeyore
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