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Offline Lostboy

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« on: July 11, 2005, 14:16:54 »
Now that the dust is beginning to settle on the streets of Edinburgh and Perth, is time to post a couple of pics of a rather impressive gadget.

Got problematic neighbours? Fed up of noisy cars going up and down your streets at night, or maybe you are just worried about a few thousand anarchists pulling up your flowers. Get Ironhorse- the Ultimate street blocker!
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2005, 16:06:15 »
And towed by a Disco and a Defender - nice !

Shame about the number plate on the Disco-towed one though, doesn't match the plate on the Disco.....nickable offence that Sir !!!

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2005, 16:33:50 »
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Shame about the number plate on the Disco-towed one though, doesn't match the plate on the Disco.....nickable offence that Sir !!!Jim


Well spotted  :?
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2005, 19:25:06 »
yeeh I spotted that too, odd how theres one rule for us and one fer t'others
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2005, 23:55:03 »
Yeah, but they're not likely to nick themselves?
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 00:05:52 »
Looks like it converts to a mobile prison too :)
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2005, 10:31:50 »
The number plates thing is only one of the various rules that they have seem to have forgotton - but in reality they did stop major destruction and injury to people so I think they can be forgiven for that.

The disco had been left unattended with it's key in the ignition at one one point - I was sooo tempted to jump in and go for a spin, always wanted one with blue lights and a big horn!  :P
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2005, 17:29:29 »
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Shame about the number plate on the Disco-towed one though, doesn't match the plate on the Disco.....nickable offence that Sir !!!


Not quite anymore...

AFAIK the rules have changed slightly... as long as the towing vehicle and the number plate on the trailer belong to the same owner, this is legal..

That is:  the towing vehicle and the vehicle who's registration plate is on the trailer must have the same registered keeper.

The rule, I belive, was changed to help haulage companies etc who have numerous trailers and numerous tractor units that all belong to one person/company.... saves them having to keep swaping number plates around.



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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2005, 17:32:36 »
And for extra geek points...

The number plate on the trailer actually belongs to a:
4.0l Range Rover, in blue....
Date manufactured 31 December 1999
Number of previous owners 1
Last owner change 31 January 2002


Most likely the company who makes/owns the trailer, rather than a police vehicle.


So actually, contrary to my previous post, not having the correct number plate on the trailer in this case would be illegal.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2005, 10:01:18 »
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And for extra geek points...

The number plate on the trailer actually belongs to a:
4.0l Range Rover, in blue....
Date manufactured 31 December 1999
Number of previous owners 1
Last owner change 31 January 2002

Ian


 :shock: Go on - tell us how you know that! Being a fan of conspiracy theories I suspect you of being involved in the security industry...
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2005, 12:34:11 »
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Go on - tell us how you know that! Being a fan of conspiracy theories I suspect you of being involved in the security industry...


If I told you I'd have to kill you!!!  :wink:  :wink:






The answer is not actually that exciting!!!!

Have a look on www.rac.co.uk

Select My RAC - you will need to register for this - it's free and you do not need to be a member of the RAC

When you log in you will be given the option to input a vehicle registration into the free data check.

And there we have it…. Input the vehicle registration and the info will pop up as if by magic.



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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2005, 08:50:16 »
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AFAIK the rules have changed slightly... as long as the towing vehicle and the number plate on the trailer belong to the same owner, this is legal..


Well... you'd think so, wouldn't you...  however I was "reliably" informed by a member of the Northants constabulary that this isn't the case.

I was towing my trailer with a hired vehicle and he pulled me up for displaying different plates front and rear.  (The trailer had the plate from my 90 on it)

I asked him what I was supposed to do.... considering that you have to take all the documents, a DNA sample, and your first-born child to get a number plate these days (and since I didn't own the vehicle I couldn't do this).

He paused for a second and then... (you'll like this)... suggested I made up a plate "even if it is just on a piece of cardboard"

When I pointed out that he would then be pulling me over for an illegal plate... he didn't really know what to say....     :roll:
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2005, 11:25:39 »
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Quote from: "Porny"
AFAIK the rules have changed slightly... as long as the towing vehicle and the number plate on the trailer belong to the same owner, this is legal..


Well... you'd think so, wouldn't you...  however I was "reliably" informed by a member of the Northants constabulary that this isn't the case.

I was towing my trailer with a hired vehicle and he pulled me up for displaying different plates front and rear.  

I asked him what I was supposed to do....

He paused for a second and then... (you'll like this)... suggested I made up a plate "even if it is just on a piece of cardboard"   :roll:


Sounds like normal police to me, make up law as its suits, attempt to enforce law, inc. made up law, again as it suits.

Law can only be made by parliament.

Law can only be enforced by the courts.

Not that most police employees, warrant holders or not, see it that way, bloody civilians (all of them)! :-(

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2005, 14:25:34 »
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AFAIK the rules have changed slightly... as long as the towing vehicle and the number plate on the trailer belong to the same owner, this is legal..



I thought that only applied if the towing vehicle was registered as agricultural machinery to save farmers changing number plates when swapping trailers during harvest.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2005, 19:35:41 »
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AFAIK the rules have changed slightly... as long as the towing vehicle and the number plate on the trailer belong to the same owner, this is legal..






I thought that only applied if the towing vehicle was registered as agricultural machinery to save farmers changing number plates when swapping trailers during harvest.


I posted this self-same point on 'T&T' with a link to this page & I've copied/pasted one reply below.

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BTM,

I have had a look at your link.

Will you post a reply on your mud club site informing them that you can take the plate off the back of the towing vehicle and put it on the trailer to stay legal or wouldn't the Policeman know that?

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2005, 20:31:59 »
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Will you post a reply on your mud club site informing them that you can take the plate off the back of the towing vehicle and put it on the trailer to stay legal or wouldn't the Policeman know that?


In my case, the Policeman obviously didn't...  but even if he had, since most rear plates are glued on these days, it wouldn't have been an option :-(
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