Sorry guys - shocks and springs

[drmike]

I have +2" shocks which I bought to try and fix an articulation problem but the springs I have are so stiff it didn't help that much.

Do you think I could fit standard length springs without damaging the shocks?

Also, can anyone explain in simple terms the relationship between load/rate and stiffness.

TIA

Mike

[Bob696]

There are some springs for a 90 on ebay at the moment  :twisted:

[Sharpshooter]

Normal shocks and springs are only £13+vat for springs, and £10+vat for shocks from Paddocks.

You should be able to fit normal springs, as long as your not intending on bottoming the shocks out. :D

[drmike]

All the various LR springs are reasonably priced in my experience and I'd rather have genuine springs than the things Paddocks sell - BTDT.

The bottoming out isn't the issue (I think) it's what hits first - the bump stop or the limit of upward travel on shock.

I  fully intend to use all the articualtion I can get and want as much droop as I can get.

Mike

[Bob696]

oi, sharpshooter ...... stop queering my sales pitch  :lol:

[drmike]

What are the springs and where in the Black Country are you? I'd be up for a set of cheap springs to try.

Mike

[drmike]

Just so you know springs fitted and seem to be fine. Then again they will displocate at full stretch. So it's jubilee clips at the top but what about the bottom front - someone flogs a retaining clip/bar shaped like a semi circle plus sticky out bits but I can't recall who.

Mike

[V8MoneyPit]

I've seen Scorpion Racing advertise them, but I'm sure there are others.

[Range Rover Blues]

Lifted springs are often stiffer and when new will be more so, you need to give them a good workout to soften them up.

I wouldn't advise using the dampers as bump stops, if the dampe is fully copmressed before the axle is into the bump stop then you need to do something!

As an alternative try spacing a set of standard springs and fitting longer bumpstops.

[drmike]

The springs were well worn and didn't need running in. It was a daft setup.

+2" springs and standard shocks so there was about 1" droop. I fitted the longer shocks and that improved the droop on a static test but at the next trial it was obvious that the LR wasn't articulating at all.

The springs that I took off were a bit longer but had a much higher load so that the LR didn't and indeed couldn't compress them so it stood tall. But it was far too stiff to be useful. This was no use to me so I got the standard set of springs which ought to be better.

I agree that I don't want the shock to act as a bump stop but rationally I don't see how Pro Comp could design a shock that would reach full compression before the bump stop came into play no matter what the extra length or lift etc.

The next trial will be interesting! I shall take a crowbar to get the springs back into place!

Mike