Glad it wasnt me

[j99mud]

Had to post this (sorry dad)
went to the petrol station yesterday in my defender and whilst i was there my dad pulled up in his disco, whilst i was waiting to pay he came in and joined the que, as he passed me he said "can you wait outside for me ive filled the car with (expletive deleted) petrol!!! 46 quids worth, But it already had half a tank of diesel in it. That makes £90 worth of useless fuel sitting in a wheelie bin in our garage. He was wondering as it is diluted half and half could it be added to a full tank of diesel 5 litres at a time, We cant really think what else to do with 90 litres of "funny fuel"
I would never have heard the end of it if i had done it!!!
Any other suggestions???
cheers

[Wanderer]

Glad it's not me with it in a wheelie bin..................

More diesel in it and it might run without too much problem in a diesel.

In a petrol it'll foul the plugs with loads of popping and banging.
Bev tried it in a V8 once. Not good.

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

I run mine on a mix quite a lot - the workshop next door always have some knocking around.  I always add enough unleaded to double the quantity, so it's less than 50% derv, and she doesn't mind too much!
25% is ok, 40% and she smokes ...err...a bit!

[johnniep]

what ever you do dont put it in a disel, we pus some 50/50 in once that a customer had accidently mixed and it did the head gasket, and thermostat, it ran way too hot and even with the new parts was still running hot and needed a new head!, warning to you,
johnnie p

[Wanderer]

what ever you do dont put it in a disel, we pus some 50/50 in once that a customer had accidently mixed and it did the head gasket, and thermostat, it ran way too hot and even with the new parts was still running hot and needed a new head!, warning to you,
johnnie p

Whoops.

I'd heard of people using diesel with petrol added. Given that info maybe not a good idea unless it's mixed to a very low percentage of it being petrol.

[johnniep]

the scinaro was that we were towing with our ranbgie with the perkins 6354 disel in it, we were towing our rangie trialer on behind and we had a whole tank of this 50/50 disel petrol mix, and it boiled once going 40mles there and 3 times on the way back, did the head gasket and it still boiled so then in the end found a recon head and did it and now its fine, but i would of thought that especially the perkins would have delt with the fule a bit better concidering it being a bigger simpler engine, never mind,
cheers
johnnie p

[TUFFTEE]

When i used to Truck to Moscow all year round back in the 80's In the wintertime i used to run the truck at 10% petrol to 90% diesel to stop my tank from freezing! So i think you would be oK As long as you add that wheelie Bin of fuel at those percentages!
                                                  regards.........

[thermidorthelobster]

In some very cold parts of the world people run up to 40% petrol to stop diesels from waxing up.  However, I'm pretty sure these are industrial-sized, bomb-proof truck engines from very agricultural vehicles, not modern electronically controlled engines.

I stuck a fiver's worth of Unleaded in the TD5 the other day before noticing;  I've since run the tank through (so about 7% petrol overall) without any obvious harm.  But from what others have said, it looks like anything much greater than this would not be a good idea.

[littlepow]

Don't think keeping it in a wheelie bin is good though, wrong type of plastic for fuel storage.

If you don't want to use it, then any armoured devision in the arm forces will dispose of it for free for you.

[Priglet]

I'd be out getting some decent containers to store the fuel in because as well as being a fire risk you're breaking the law. To comply with the law you may also need to get friends to store some of the fuel as you can only have 20 litres stored.

http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/fuelstorage.php

[Wanderer]

There's also the problem that some of the "plastic" from the wheelie bin may have started to contaminate the fuel as well as the safety nightmare and legalities already mentioned.

Serious bit over..

I'm sure there are some MC members local to you that would help you to dispose of it in their tanks :)

[TUFFTEE]

Here Here!! I'm up for it? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[abinitio]

keeping to the 10% max option in a tank of derv will be fine. As Tufftee and others mentioned, it's done all the time in colder climates, and not just in trucks, in vans and cars too.

However the wheelie bin does cause a problem, not so much from it contaminating the fuel but from it melting.

Also the storage volume does also cause an issue though I'm not sure on the exact quantities, but then again if in 'proper' jerry cans etc it's not a problem unless you tell people.

PS, don't tell your neighbours about the wheelie bin being full as if startled you'll have the emergency services around pretty fast :shock:

Lee


Putting derv in a petrol is also an old car dealers trick, makes the diesel run better for a while (at high mixes) until after a few miles when the engine gives up.

[thermidorthelobster]

I was cleaning carb bits in a plastic tray recently, and the petrol I was using as a cleaner started to eat through the plastic, even though the plastic wasn't actually immersed.

A wheelie bin's worth of fuel over the garage floor wouldn't be pretty...

[Range Rover Blues]

2 1/2 to 5 percent petrol will help clean the diesel system but i wouldn't use more than than.  BTW, the petrol will go through the weelie bin, get it in jerry cans now or the petrol will migrate and leave you with a useless sludge and no weelie bin).

Apparently space-heaters love it, diesel with petrol in it.  My mate used to run his on it because the company cars next door were always coming in with the wrong fuel in them.

[Wanderer]

A taxi driver in Derby did the same thing and it ate it's way through the wheelie bin which he'd stuck in his cellar in a terraced house. It soaked into the foundations of 4 or 5 other houses and they all had to be evacuated.

My point about it contaminating the fuel wasn't to take away from the dangers of the way it was stored but to point out that any plastic contaminating the fuel would cost heavy money. I've just paid out £200 for repairs to my fuel injector pump on a 200tdi and fell through the floor and gladly paid that when I managed to find out how much a new pump is.

[j99mud]

thanks for all the advice guys i will be trying to find some where better to store it pretty quick, i ralise the wheelie bin was a bad idea but didnt really know where else to put that sort of quantatie of fuel :oops: