Could Be Thought-Provoking?

[Bush Tucker Man]

Channel 4, Thursday 13th October @ 21:00


Nick Cook (a 'Janes Defence Weekly' editor) is fronting a show on the UFO phenomena & it's 'alledged' connection to various military' Black Projects'.
I'm sure he'll be covering other associated technologies that he's researched as well (Zero-point energy, Schaubergers theories, Hutchinsons work, etc...)

I've read an excellent good book of his on the subjects & it's very intriguing.
There's quite a few sites;
Zero-Point

Boeing 'break cover'?

[laser_jock99]

Good call- interesting stuff there!

[isle of man]

yes just seen that...


peter henry

[Bush Tucker Man]

The Wencelas mines & associated 'Bell' are very intrigiung.

Aurora, as mentioned towards the end is something I've read about for a while on-line, but the satellite image of the 'con-trail; is pretty damning.

It has been allegedly seen by a trained member of the Royal Observer Corps from a north sea oil-rig, a reliable witness

But on the other side of the coin, is it mis-information?

If you want to read more, get a copy of his 'The Hunt For Zero-Point' book

Here's the Amazon listing for the publisher & ISBN

[Reaper]

I have been interested in the military side of the ufo phenomena for years now and have read a few books on the subject.  As the Aurora project is purportedly just the latest version of the U2, SR71 & B-2 it would be difficult to hide all evidence of its testing in this modern satellite observed and Radar infested world, the public are not just accepting the "UFO" explanation today and with hi resoloution video and photographic evidence it must be becoming increasingly difficult for the millitary to keep it's projects covert. I do believe that the majority of UFO & UAP sightings are military related and as the program showed last night the majority of sightings started just after the war when America nabbed most of the German scientists who were at least 10 years ahead of anybody else in rocket & flight technology and is a very interesting subject in its self.
Oh I could ramble on for ages but I wouldn't put you all through that  :lol:
Sorry :?

[Bishops Finger]

Drat missed this

[Bush Tucker Man]

I have been interested in the military side of the ufo

Yes, it's interesting & 'there's no smoke without fire'

Oh I could ramble on for ages but I wouldn't put you all through that  :lol:
Sorry :?

You can for me :D

I was very surprised that Schaubergers work in relationship to 'The Bell' wasn't mentioned

[littlepow]

Missed it, but I saw another documentry on area 51. This had planes built by NASA and USAF that used rotary jet engines in a single fixed wing design. Locals kept saying their were UFO's which the Goverment kept feeding to hide the research.
Accordingly USAF research has aircrafts that are decades ahead of the rest of the world!

[suzota]

it only takes one man with a vision to change the course of tehcnolagy.
look at the russian space program in the late 50's early 60's.
they were miles ahead of everybody else untill their man died. then they just fell apart.
but did you notice that the americans bought avro out to stop anyone else getting flying saucer work done.
they did the same with the supersonic bell x1 project.
the british had a better design that was ahead of them until they aranged to share research. so we gave them everything we had and they gave us nothing back. hence they did it before us.
it was a good programe though.

[Reaper]

I was very surprised that Schaubergers work in relationship to 'The Bell' wasn't mentioned

Unfortunatly as is usually the case with these programes, they never quite get into the best or most interesting bits, this is due to the programe having to appeal to the man on the street and fit into an hour slot or two, Also if your interested(sad)  and track down and read the latest articles and reports on the net, most of what is on these programes then becomes old news.

I am just about to start reading "Reich of the black sun"
"  In Reich Of The Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons & The Cold War Allied Legend, author and iconoclast Joseph Farrell provides intriguing answers to a series of hitherto unasked questions: Why were the Allies worried about an atom bomb attack by the Germans in 1944? Why did the Soviets threaten to use poison gas against the Germans? Why did Hitler insist in 1945 that holding Prague could win the war for the Nazis? Why did General George Patton's Third Army race to control the Skoda Works at Pilsen in Czechoslovakia instead of heading for Berlin? Why did the American army not test the uranium bomb it dropped on Hiroshima? Why did the Luftwaffe fly a non-stop round trip mission to within twenty miles of New York City in 1944?. Reich Of The Black Sun is a simply fascinating and thoughtfully engaging historical treatise that reveals the Nazis fascination with the occult, alternative physics, as well as new energy sources and weaponry. Inherently thought provoking reading, Reich Of The Black Sun draws upon a wealth of documentation and an "alternative history" discourse that is as thoughtful as it is thought provoking. Very highly recommended reading and a seminal addition to personal and academic World War II historical studies collections."

[Bush Tucker Man]

A friend pointed me in the direction of this site, given the programmes emphasis on Nazi technology, it looks interesting

http://www.luft46.com/

[Bulli]

Didnt the canadians have a very fast,manouverable supersonic fighter that was way ahead of its time.....which was suddenly decomissioned??

[Bush Tucker Man]

DreamLand (no, nothing to do with Michael Jackson :roll: )

We had one too, that was ordered to be dramatically stoppedBAC TSR2


Is this the Canadian plane you mentioned?
AVRoe Canada CF105 'Arrow'

Then of course there's Aurora .........................

[Reaper]

DreamLand

I'm going there next year, well obviously not into Area 51 but right up as far as you can go to "the signposts"!  :D

[Bush Tucker Man]

DreamLand

I'm going there next year, well obviously not into Area 51 but right up as far as you can go to "the signposts"!  :D

Do we say goodbye now, or later?? :lol:

[Reaper]

Do we say goodbye now, or later??

I'll be back  

I hope.  :shock:

[chuggaman]

latest sighting at


http://www.ufotheatre.com/default.htm

While heading east on Highway 108, a Sonora man
picked up a hitchhiker, a 34-year-old woman who lives in a trailer park
in Calaveras County. As they drove along, she told him about an a pair
of recent odd UFO sightings.
According to the woman, on Saturday afternoon, She saw
"a type of UFO that looked like a huge bubble" near Twain Harte,
a small town east of Sonora, just across the Stanislaus River. She
described the "bubble" as looking like "a gelatinous mass that is
covering a large area," transparent but "sort of an opaque gray color."
Within the bubble she could make out a number of occupants. The
occupants appeared only in silhouette and left no features that she
could identify.


She also told our informant of an earlier sighting "a month ago," about
one mile northwest of Tuolomne City. This town, located in the
Stanislaus National Forest, is 8 miles west of Twain Harte and closer
to Sonora. No exact date was available, but hikers reportedly saw a
disc-shaped UFO descend slowly to the forest floor, and then "it just
vanished instantly."


Curiously enough, a few minutes later, a helicopter with the white
letters UN on its side hovered over the forest meadow. The helicopter
flew back and forth for several moments, as if "searching for something"
and then turned about and flew away to the west.

[Bush Tucker Man]

I was very surprised that Schaubergers work in relationship to 'The Bell' wasn't mentioned

Unfortunatly as is usually the case with these programes, they never quite get into the best or most interesting bits, this is due to the programe having to appeal to the man on the street and fit into an hour slot or two, Also if your interested(sad)  and track down and read the latest articles and reports on the net, most of what is on these programes then becomes old news.

Well the scientists had to examine any possible technology, as even the staff with a 'normal' bckground couldn't be seen to be supporting & embracing Einsteinian (Jewish) theories.
I know that sounds strange, but it's the wayit was then

I am just about to start reading "Reich of the black sun"

Sounds like e good book, I'll ask the local library

Could I have the ISBN please?

[Reaper]

Could I have the ISBN please?

ISBN: 1931882398   :)

[Bush Tucker Man]

Could I have the ISBN please?

ISBN: 1931882398   :)

Thanks, duly noted.

Will try & get in tomorrow after work