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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2005, 16:40:52 »
Well I see ya point. You looked like ya was floating at one point. Have you moved your EMS ( Engine Managment System ) from under the seat if not get it done you dont want to be missing the plane next time eh mate....
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2005, 16:50:43 »
No I've not moved it, and I haven't moved the throttle potentiometer either  :D

The question is, where would I move them to, When ever I've checked under the seat boxes, the tide mark on the ECU one is only an inch or so, and the ECU is mounted right at the top. Even after a prolonged wading session. In anything with a bulkhead\mesh divide it's easy stick at the top of that, but the only sensible place I could put it, would be the above the roof lining, which means near enough stripping it out  :(  So the other option is to waterproof the seat box, which is fine, but I'm not sure how the water is getting in. I've silconed the obvious holes, but it still gets in, and if your not careful all you do is trap the water in.

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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2005, 17:02:04 »
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No I've not moved it, and I haven't moved the throttle potentiometer either  :D


The other option is to buy an Extension cable to move the EMS/ECU. I have seen them somwhere on the net not cheep tho I think they was about £100 but may be worth the money if it stops you from having to spend silly money getting ya new one and engine drained out after it stops. The way you wade if the engine stalls the water would rush up the exhaust and flood the engine.

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The question is, where would I move them to the only sensible place I could put it, would be the above the roof lining, which means near enough stripping it out  :(  


If you had the cable you would be able to move it to wherever you wanted.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2005, 17:12:05 »
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If you had the cable you would be able to move it to wherever you wanted.


You'd need a extension cable to move it anywhere sensible, it's just that there isn't anywhere sensible without one hell of a lot work stripping the vehicle.

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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2005, 17:16:49 »
Just an Idea mate you dont want the bill for a new ecu and engine. I dont have that problem. I can take the battery off mine and bump start it. Runs without. There is something to say for the old landys still.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2005, 17:22:09 »
Oh if I could think of anywhere decent to put it, I probably would.

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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2005, 20:01:28 »
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Door seals was my first response, but since then I've watched a few DVDs and learnt, you don't want Door Seals for Wading. If you watch a Toyata go wading, it will float, which if there is a side current means it goes over, if there isn't it means no traction. Accept that your going to get your feet wet, and go for it, you've got a snorkel!!  :D


& with that approach i ended up with standing on the bonnet the only place that was dry  :oops:
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2005, 20:51:25 »
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Just an Idea mate you dont want the bill for a new ecu and engine. I dont have that problem. I can take the battery off mine and bump start it. Runs without. There is something to say for the old landys still.


tip stollen from scrapheap challenge........ Tupperware and silcone sealent!

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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2005, 20:52:56 »
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Well what ya think of mine that was my first real attempt at water.

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Miniman/gallery/Whitworth13thNovember2005/5/e05a90c5be6007d6a0f7b0ca5522900e.JPG/

Hope it was ok for the first attempt. I need to make some more modifications be for I realy go for it....Waders would be the first thing and some new door seals. It comes in very quick.


caught me learking in the background there miniman

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2005, 21:00:57 »
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tip stollen from scrapheap challenge........ Tupperware and silcone sealent!
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Seriously tempted by that, and had thought about it before, but I'm note sure what sort of heat dissapation is required.

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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2005, 21:10:19 »
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Quote from: "H"

tip stollen from scrapheap challenge........ Tupperware and silcone sealent!
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Seriously tempted by that, and had thought about it before, but I'm note sure what sort of heat dissapation is required.


Gotta thank the IT boys for this one..... turn the ECU's enemy into your allie.....
http://pcmediasupplies.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=156_173_178&products_id=946

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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2005, 21:55:29 »
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No I've not moved it, and I haven't moved the throttle potentiometer either  :D

The question is, where would I move them to, When ever I've checked under the seat boxes, the tide mark on the ECU one is only an inch or so, and the ECU is mounted right at the top. Even after a prolonged wading session. In anything with a bulkhead\mesh divide it's easy stick at the top of that, but the only sensible place I could put it, would be the above the roof lining, which means near enough stripping it out  :(  So the other option is to waterproof the seat box, which is fine, but I'm not sure how the water is getting in. I've silconed the obvious holes, but it still gets in, and if your not careful all you do is trap the water in.


seal it all up & fit a small bilge pump,was watching the OBC 2003 & thats what the aussies have on there nissans etc
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2005, 22:03:19 »
I thought I had sealed it but it still leaks, and I don't really think there is room for a pump really. Obviously the answer is to have a play vehicle, and a work vehicle rather than one combined, then I can modifiy it abit more radically.

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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2005, 19:13:20 »
Last time I was up there Drum, brand new TD5 90 drowned completely due to ECU in the lake and was last seen waiting for the breakdown truck to arrive wondering how he was going to get it on Warranty......was going to go for Warranty on the basis that the ECU under the seat seats below the wading depth in the handbook so it wasn't his fault......

Having said that, your wading depth of 8 foot may affect that in some way :lol:  :shock:  :shock:
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2005, 19:17:13 »
And sorry Jim-wily but I have to tell to help you out against all this ribbing...

After he slid graciously down the bank and settled on the rock, Jim-wily said to me

"[!Expletive Deleted!], now the're all gonna think I'm stuck....I could drive out of this easy but I refuse to scratch my Mud Club member sticker on that rock so I'll have to get Drum to spin me round a bit!"

Telling you, it's true :wink:
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« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2005, 19:34:40 »
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Last time I was up there Drum, brand new TD5 90 drowned completely due to ECU in the lake and was last seen waiting for the breakdown truck to arrive wondering how he was going to get it on Warranty......was going to go for Warranty on the basis that the ECU under the seat seats below the wading depth in the handbook so it wasn't his fault......

Having said that, your wading depth of 8 foot may affect that in some way :lol:  :shock:  :shock:


I wouldn't mind knowing how he got on  :D  I am all to aware that mine does get a bit close to been damp at times, I might explore the tupaware box at some point, as I reckon the seat box is nigh on impossible to seal successfully. That said I might strip out the contents, and give it a really good  go with the sealant first. Ofcourse the next problem is the fuses which are all just infront of the gear lever, and just as vunerable.

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« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2005, 19:57:54 »
I think that the ecu is far more vulnerable than the fuses - i have had my fuses under water with no probs to speak of , but i have heard of a few td5s with flooding probs.
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« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2005, 20:04:39 »
Oh I agree dave, the ECU is the first to tackle, however I reckon if you short your fuses out the worst you might do is blow a bulb or similar. With mine a shorted fuse, could lead to a short been fed to the ECU and back to the same scenrio.

Remind me why did I buy a TD5??

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« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2005, 20:07:42 »
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Remind me why did I buy a TD5??


Cos you are rich lol :lol:
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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2005, 20:09:14 »
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Remind me why did I buy a TD5??


Cos you are rich lol :lol:


Not since I bought a Land Rover  :(

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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2006, 19:58:07 »
Na then guys got another for ya.....He been stuck again....here goes...
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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2006, 20:03:12 »
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Remind me why did I buy a TD5??


you wanna try ownin a jeep, drum!! lol :roll:

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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2006, 20:03:30 »
Oh dear........  My excuse is it was dark when i parked it :roll:
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2006, 20:14:36 »
dark when i parked it!! lol
didnt you think there may be a problem when chris got and appeared covered in mud from head to foot!!? mind you..... it wouldnt have needed a lot of mud!! hehe  :wink:  :lol:  :wink:

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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2006, 20:20:26 »
It was 1 in the morning Matt and pitch black, it aint stuck in mud, just parked in ditch wi the diffs grounded.
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2006, 20:23:34 »
it wasnt all bad then... at least it wasnt a tank you parked and slept under it!! people have been known to have been crushed as the tank sank into the ground!!
you had a good weekend then all in all!!  :D

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« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2006, 20:24:59 »
Aye............  CIDER was consumed :lol: .  Sorry to here about the Big Yank dying :cry:
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« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2006, 20:40:39 »
Ah-ha, so you avoided getting stuck on thurs but managed it on the wales part of the trip then Jim!!

Looks like fun, have you got the pics up yet?
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« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2006, 20:46:29 »
Yeh he likes to get stuck does jim I think he does it on purpose some times....he he.... He likes the Fame....
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« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2006, 22:37:54 »
the yank tank will live to fight another day, dont you worry!! hehe

itll take more than a bit of friendly fire to put it out of the action!! hehe

anyway.... ive got plans!!  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:

 






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