2" lift

[Damonski]

Ive been offered a 2" lift springs and shocks, but Im curious about the prop issues.  Can anyone give me any pointers and ideas of prices ?

Do both the front and rear props need changing?  Whats the costs/parts needed?  Anything else I should be looking at doing whilst having the car in the "air" ?

Cheers

[Budgie]

You can fit a +2" lift kit without any prop changes.
The only time this comes into play is if you fit the caster correction radius arms to the front. These change the angle of the diff, putting strain on the U/J at the transfer box end of the front prop and causing a vibration in the drive train.

Normally, the only reason for fitting the corrected radius arms is when you feel that the steering is too sloppy, tends to tramline on the road or wanders. You may not even notice this with the +2" lift, I didn't on my Rangie and the Disco was okay until I fitted the +3" springs.  

[Damonski]

cool news :)

Guess its just give it a go time !

Id have to change my sig next, Dandy camper in need of 4" suspension lift ;)

[Wanderer]

It doesn't tend to have an effect on the rear propshaft as it's longer so smaller angles involved.

[TimM]

Anything else I should be looking at doing whilst having the car in the "air" ?

I've just fitted a 2" lift kit to mine and I've not found any problems with the steering etc since.

One thing that came with it though was extended rear brake lines as the standard ones 'might' break if stretched, I had my lift fitted at a garage and they said it probably wouldn't need them (they only recently renewed all the brake lines at the back) but when they looked they agreed that it did and so fitted them.

It might be worth doing it whilst it's 'in the air' rather than regretting it later  

[Wanderer]

Test it Tim.

Jack the car up and let the rear axle hang (while carefully watching the brake hose) If it gets taught then it does need changing in case you ever beach the car with the rear wheel hanging in fresh air or you get the rear wheels off the ground.

I'd be very surprised that it doesn't need changing.

[TimM]

Test it Tim.

Jack the car up and let the rear axle hang (while carefully watching the brake hose) If it gets taught then it does need changing in case you ever beach the car with the rear wheel hanging in fresh air or you get the rear wheels off the ground.

I'd be very surprised that it doesn't need changing.

Thats what they did Ed  

They didn't think it would need them, but I said that people on here said it would, and they came in the 'kit' (from Paddocks), so that is what they tried (with me watching) and it was clear that I would need them.

So they are changed now for some lovely shiny Goodrich braded hoses (well they used to be shiny anyway  :lol: )

[Wanderer]

Have you still got the ARB fitted?
Usually that needs +2" spacers to line it back up.
It may be the ARB is restricting the movement.

I've seen 2" lifts where the brake hose is like a guitar string.
Some people pack the hose mount instead of going for longer hoses.

Me I prefered the stainless braided hoses.

[TimM]

Have you still got the ARB fitted?

I did have until I snapped the mounting bolt on a descent down Stanage Edge the other weekend, I did ask the garage about lowering it (I think I saw a post somewhere from RRB suggesting towbar spacers) but they didn't think that was the problem.

As for the brakes, I have the Stainless hoses so I'm happy I won't have a problem with them, and I can live without and ARB if necessary  

[Range Rover Blues]

If you have the self-leveling suspension you don't need the longer rear hose as the suspension droop is not affected, however theis means you are loosing travel.

Tim, I snapped an ARB mount on Stannage too ealier in the year, the rear one by any chance?

Now as I like the car to go round corners I have a very stiff rear ARB setup and custom brackets to suit.  In order to keep the articluation reliably you should space the bar down, it's the only cheap job on a 2" lift anyway and it also stops it binding on the Southdown tank guard.

However the front hoses really should be longer, I have +3" all round.

[TimM]

the rear one by any chance?

Spot on  

I think it was you that I saw somewhere had said you fitted towbar spacers..... will see what I can find and get some on, I wasn't especially convinced when the garage said I didn't need them.

I have two spare braided hoses from the kit, presumably then the+y should have gone on the front...... I will have to jack it up and see if they look vulnerable.