Hands-Free

[Bush Tucker Man]

I didn't know whether this ought to go in the 'GPS, Radios, In-Car Electronics & Other Electrickery' forum, but it's vehicle specific...

Due to impending plans to swap/px 'S50 RAT' for a Defender, can I ask present owners about Hands-Free mobile phone kits?

I don't have much experience of these, as I don't travel in many various vehicles so fitted, therefore I just have 2 case studies to go from;

Case 1
SWMBO's 'works van' (Mondeo)
Nokia 3100
Joanne has a full Nokia kit fitted, black-box fitted wherever, speaker under the centre armrest, answer button by the gear-lever & microphone on the overhead moulding by the interior mirror.
It mutes the (standard) Sony radio/CD when a call is made - or answered

I assume this is industry standard?

Case 2
Father-in-laws 'works van' (Focus 2)
Nokia 6822
Very similar set up, just differant locations for componants


On a Defender, where would the items go?
I assume that the speaker could fit between the instrument pack & the radio & pointing at you?
If the standard radio/Cassette/Cd (whatever) is installed, can an 'auto-Mute' be fitted?

What is a suitable location for the microphone?, or are the stalk-mounted mikes more suitable? (some of the Ambulances have these)
Or is a 'Noise-Cancelling' version available?


This is not for my present phone I might add (Nokia 3310), I'll probably replace it.

[pondy653]

I have a Nokia HF kit for my 6310i in my Defender, it is fitted thus;
Black box fitted behind dash
microphone on top of dash to R/H side.
Speaker in dash tray in between windscreen demister pipe and stereo mount.
Mounting Cradle screwed to lower dash in about 4 inches to right of rear wash wipe switch.
Aerial- small rubber one mounted on L/H top of windscreen (protected by snorkle)

I'll post a photos later if you want?

Tony

[Bush Tucker Man]

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I'll post a photos later if you want?

Tony

So roughly as surmised then??

Photos? Yes, please.
T'would be much appreciated :D

[MTyrrell]

I have a Halfords hands free kit fitted to my 110. The control box is fitted behind the fuse box and all cables run up the loom from the fuse box to behind the dash, the phone (Sony Ericsson K700i) is mounted on the front edge of the dash top to the left of the driver with the microphone sitting on top of the dash in front of the driver. The system doesn't have an external speaker, instead it's plugged in to the radio loom and mutes the radio when the phone rings.
 There are several relay kits available for the nokia car kit to mute the radio and use the in car speakers.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Thanks Matt

[jjsaul]

i have a hands free kit fitted in the 110 (with a nokia 6310i)

cradle screwed to the side of the stereo housing (didnt want to put any more holes in the dash...)

black box in dash tray

and i bought the stereo mute kit for £20 off ebay so it pipes the sound through the stereo speakers.

the mic is stuck to the top of the dash in the centre.

and the aerial is a tax disc holder stick on inside of windscreen type....£7 off ebay.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Now I've got a 110 (instead of the desired TVR) it's got to be carried out I suppose?

Having had a search around the house, there's a pair of other Nokias in a drawer in the basement utility/laundry/Dog room
1100
3510

The 1100 seems almost too small & according to the 'Enhancements' page, there's no car-kit available for it.

The 3510 'vibrate-alert' is inoperable for some reason (comes in handy at work, if I'm with a patient)
Car-kit available

'Dew1911' recommends a 6310i
Having looked at the page, it seems quite a nice phone.
It doesn't appear to say what type of ring-tones it has (I'd like the more 'musical' type)

Any other recommendations for a decent (basic) fancy-free, non 'flippy', camera-free Nokia??

[Mean Green]

I have a Nokia 6310i in my 90 with Genuine Nokia CARK-91 car kit.

The cradle is screwed to the front of the cubby box and the phone lies almost flat... the only problem I have ever had with it is when the LR broke down AA man jumped into it pulled it onto his wagon then (in the dark) thought the cradle was the handbrake and yanked it off!!

The black box is behind the 2002 style dash.. before I changed the dash I had the box screwed to the side of the cubby.. it sat on the drivers side and was below the finished level of the seat, so was out of the way.

The Mic is mounted on the headlining, just in front of the sun visor... only downside to this is about 2 inches of black wire heading to the sunvisor.. but it works well.

The speaker is mounted beneath the centre console pointing towards me.

The aerial, is a tax disk job.

The RRC is very similar... mic on door pillar, cradle on gearbox tunnel.

SWMBO's Honda... complete bitch to do!!! I wont even go into it, lets just say the stereo has still never been taken out!!!

[Bush Tucker Man]

I have a Nokia 6310i in my 90 with Genuine Nokia CARK-91 car kit

Any chance of a photo (or 2)?, if you've got access to a digital camera, please.

[beast5680]

i had a 6310i kit in my defender when i had it but you had a job to hear it over the engine/road/wind noise above 50mph :roll:

[H]

if all the phones are bluetooth this http://www.blueunplugged.com/Products/Parrot_Bluetooth_Advanced_Car_Kit_CK3100.aspx is possible the best peice of kit around, it can pair with up to 5 phones so its usuable by anyone who uses your car with a blue tooth phone, plugs directly into the radios loom and uses the radios speakers so it auto mutes even non auto mute radios also has a little caller id and dialer window so you dont even need to take your phone out of your pocket. there is also a dearer version the ck3500 that has built in GPS so if you went for a smart phone or PDA and got the appropriate software Tom tom ect you could have sat nat too.

H

ps no I dont sell them I used to have one but I sold it as I couldnt pair with the hands free and my blue tooth GPS unit.

[Bush Tucker Man]

above 50mph :roll:

Very rare that I venture that far up the scale (apart from 60mph on motorways)

[Bush Tucker Man]

Right I've eventually got hold the kit (after a few false starts& incompatible meeting times )

On the power multi-plug there are 5 wires
Black = Earth
Red = Permanant supply
Blue = Ignition controlled supply
Yellow = radio mute
Green = ????

What function does the green wire serve?

And is the rotary volume/on-off buttom available as a separate item??

[H]

its for if you have a motorised  antenna for the hands free kit according to a nokia cark91 manual I have here.

H

[Bush Tucker Man]

its for if you have a motorised  antenna for the hands free kit according to a nokia cark91 manual I have here.
H

I've got the 'tax-disc' antenna, so definately not required then
 
Thanks for looking

Sorry, ought to have added, I got a 6310 along with the kit

[H]

:oops: thought you where after a blue tooth kit BTM I have the old cark 91 kit that the manual was for that you could of had, its just gavering dust, its complete apart from the speaker (which I use for my CB)

H

[Bush Tucker Man]

:oops: thought you where after a blue tooth kit BTM  
H

No, in SWMBO's Mondeo, there's the little button/rotary knob



Instead of pressing the phone to answer a call she just presses the knob
(hers isn't BlueTooth, & see my opening post)

[ChrisW]

I've got a feeling you need the wireless hands free kit in order to connect the remote control Nokia button (but I do stand to be corrected).

Probably totally irrellevant but I fitted one of these last week, tidies up the external speaker bit and takes care of the mute on the stereo  

[Bush Tucker Man]

Fitted it this morning :D , but still got to tidy up the wiring slightly, as it's all just pushed down in the 'dash-tray'
Took the feeds off the radio/CD supply
Mike on top leftcorner of instrument panel
Speaker just laid in tray to left of radio/CD at the moment.

Only tried it stationary at the moment, will get SWBO to phone me on my way to work

[Bush Tucker Man]

Apparantly I need to move the mike as it's too quiet.
Or talk louder

[Bush Tucker Man]

One thing I've noticed;
If I sit with it in the cradle & the ignition in the off posiition, after a few minutes it turns the phone off altogether.
I'm wondering if I've accidentally transposed the permanant & ignition-controlled lives??

(I've have to try it with the key at the 'Accessory'position as well)

[Bush Tucker Man]

One thing I've noticed;
If I sit with it in the cradle & the ignition in the off position, after a few minutes it turns the phone off altogether.
I'm wondering if I've accidentally transposed the permanant & ignition-controlled lives??

(I've have to try it with the key at the 'Accessory'position as well)

It works with the key in the Accessory Position, so I'll have to remove it from the cradle if I'm turned off

[smo]

Its ment to turn off when you turn off the ignition (as far as i know).

I fitted a Nokia CK-7W bluetooth kit to my 90 the other day and its fantastic, really neat install (if i do say so myself!) and gives me the option of Bluetooth connection to upto 7 "paired" phones or connection via cable/cradle which charges as well :)

[Bush Tucker Man]

Its ment to turn off when you turn off the ignition (as far as i know).

That's okay then, I'll guess that SWMBO kit has been connected up differantly then??