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« on: January 06, 2006, 16:56:13 »
I have put my Grizzley claws on today and I thought, easy job, nothing to it.

So I jacked it all up and changed them. Lowered the disco back down to the ground. Reversed out of the parking space and I heard something rubbing. Typical!

The near side front wheel rubs on the bumper edge, the off side did rub on the end of the side step but a bar against the end of the step and the wheel tread soon sorted that one out. Only needed to be tweeked about 10mm as it just catched. Also on full lock the tread hits a big bit of metal under the disco. No idea what the metal is but it looks important!

So I now have the fun job of trying to adjust the bumper. The off side wheel is miles away from hitting but the near side catches. Could the axle be twisted? I have no idea.

Help on any reasons why would be nice.

I was hoping this topic would be "the big green giant is born" but it isnt.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 17:06:17 »
yup, your tyres are too big or you havent got enough lift. Thats both the cause and the solution to your woes.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2006, 17:24:19 »
well I have no lift as of yet as I only got the disco in November and dont have the money to buy a lift!  :D

But why does the of side wheel have about a hands width between the wheel and the bumper edge but the near side catches?
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2006, 17:29:11 »
If its like mine the bumper had a nudge by the previous owner, one side sits about 2" further back than the other. used a tow rope to pull it back out.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2006, 17:37:02 »
What size tyres are they James?
 :?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2006, 17:55:17 »
Make sure you get the lock stops done straight away.

At Towcester we saw what was partly down to an aggresive tyre catching on a radius arm.
That's your "big important looking" bit of metal.

It rolled a Hybrid over end over end. Trust me.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2006, 18:02:28 »
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2006, 18:23:27 »
http://members.shaw.ca/jbarge/tires.html

Check out this link James it'll give you all the info you'll need to sort out any mods needed.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2006, 18:46:50 »
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If its like mine the bumper had a nudge by the previous owner, one side sits about 2" further back than the other. used a tow rope to pull it back out.


where did you attatch the tow rope too to pull it back out?
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2006, 18:47:48 »
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Make sure you get the lock stops done straight away.

At Towcester we saw what was partly down to an aggresive tyre catching on a radius arm.
That's your "big important looking" bit of metal.

It rolled a Hybrid over end over end. Trust me.


My tyres arent that big! I dont fancy rolling over and over. It is my greatest fear.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2006, 18:48:57 »
im sure that radius are isnt supposed to be banana shape! I bet that roll was caused by high cog against side slope looking at where it ended up. Big tyres!
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2006, 18:49:51 »
They are if the knobbly bits on something like a Grizzly Claw grab the radius arm.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2006, 18:50:58 »
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What size tyres are they James?
 :?


235/70's If that means anything to anyone. Mean nowt to me. I just know they catch on the bumper and sound like a jet engine!
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2006, 18:53:41 »
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Have a look here.

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/turtle/gallery/gbr1


Who's was the Hybrid Ed?? There's quite a few faces I recognise around it  :D
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2006, 18:54:14 »
Just rapped it around at the end of the bumper and atached the rope to a STRONG post.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2006, 19:07:18 »
235/70 on a 16 inch rim?

thats is standard discovery size and should not catch at all
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2006, 19:10:25 »
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What size tyres are they James?
 :?


235/70's If that means anything to anyone. Mean nowt to me. I just know they catch on the bumper and sound like a jet engine!


They should fit just fine.
I agree with the steering stops though.
Mine catch because i have'nt got round to doing them yet.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2006, 19:11:23 »
It was on top of the bank and turned to the left down a 45 degree(ish) bank that meant the n/s/f wheel was a couple of feet lower than the o/s/f on full lock the tyre caught under the n/s radius arm and due to the angles it threw it over. At least that's my understanding.
Mud Club were approached to go in and recover it. Good training exercise but not so good for the driver and the passenger.

They walked away though but with injuries.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2006, 19:27:46 »
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Just rapped it around at the end of the bumper and atached the rope to a STRONG post.


I tried a big bar against the tyre and bumper but broke the bumper clip!

I will go for a search for a big tree tomorrow then. sounds like a trip down a byway to me! Oh well hard life!
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2006, 19:35:58 »
If you have any problems, i've got a discovery you could anchor of off.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2006, 19:48:09 »
If its the standard plastic bumper, trim it back with an angle grinder, gives a better look from the front aswell
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2006, 20:41:05 »
it is the plastic bottom bit it hits. the guy i bought it off did say he had a company pull the bumper out a bit but it isnt enough.

I will go find a tree or attatch mine to Jakes disco. I am guessing you Jake are Bigblues ex owner?
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2006, 21:18:58 »
If its the bottom of the valence you can score a line with a stanley knife and it will pull straight off
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2006, 22:34:07 »
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I am guessing you Jake are Big Blues ex owner?


The one and only.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2006, 22:35:45 »
no more i see from another thread :(
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2006, 22:46:43 »
I sold it a while back
I'm now running a 300 Tdi ES as my daily hack and mud plugger.
Comfort and style (in the mud)
Are you coming to the pub meet on the 26th?
Have a read of this.
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2006, 11:23:21 »
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I sold it a while back
I'm now running a 300 Tdi ES as my daily hack and mud plugger.
Comfort and style (in the mud)
Are you coming to the pub meet on the 26th?
Have a read of this.
 :D


I have a disco es as well. It is my other daily hacker. No point in selling other car as it is in too good a nick to sell but worth nothing unfortunately so may as well keep hold of it incase the disco breaks down one day!

Im affraid I cant come as I will have work the next day. I have to be up at 3am so going to a pub over an hour away will mean about 3 hours sleep! I cant live on that!  I will be able to come one day when my Day off falls on the Thursday as I will get a lie in the next day. Just keep pm'ing me.

I'm off to find that tree to pull the bumper out or I may just say sod it and get a stanley knife to it! I cant believe a stanley knife will go through it though.
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2006, 11:28:37 »
A nice new blade will cut the bumper with no worries.
Draw a line first, then score it with the blade. Then keep scoring, it'll slip through easy.
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« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2006, 11:32:57 »
cool. That should sort the problem out and I wont need to pull the bumper back out will I???

Are bumper ends expensive to buy as my plan is to sell the bumper once I have got a winch bumper in not the near future due to the price of them!
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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2006, 11:37:32 »
There is usually loads on eBay :)
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