Should I grass on my neighbour?

[Lostboy]

My neighbour is from Germany. He has imported his car (a Renault Kangoo) and is is using that as his everyday transport.

It appears that you are only allowed six months in twelve before you have to have a UK registration, UK tax, MOT certificate and insurance from a UK company. He is still using it on German plates with no tax disk and still has the headlights set-up for driving on the right hand side of the road. This has been the case for twelve months now.

I'm stuck in two frames of mind now, he is tax dodging while we all faithfully pay ours, his vehicle is untracable in the event of an incident, he is disregarding the safety of on-coming motorists by dassling them with his headlights, and would a UK insurance firm cover a foreign registered car, so has he even got insurance?

Althernatively, am I just being to a**l rentive about the whole thing?

[Horness]

Casually remind him that "your mate in the DVLA" passed comment last time he was round for coffee.

He may genuinely not be aware of all the facts.

[gecko]

think as above dont grass him in just remind him ask your self if you was in his place and you didnt know what was going on .
and some one grassed you up what would you think but if some one told you that you have to sort it out   well nuff sead end of the day its up to you

[Hightower]

I want to say 'No, give the guy a break', but if it was my car he hit, or child he ran over, I would be most upset (huge understatement).
As suggested, give him a gentle nudge.  It may be a mistake or misunderstanding on his part.

[davidlandy]

is he a good bloke?  

yes - give him some time

no - grass him up

[ian_s]

is he a good bloke?  

yes - give him some time

no - grass him up

i would have said:
yes - go and have a word with him about it
no - grass him up

he's had enough time already

[Damonski]

I would pass comment about it and let him sort it out.

[chuggaman]

remind him about insurance and how he would feel if he killed a child(god forbid).

mike

[Jas278]

Speak to the man asap, before he and others end up in a situation that they both dont want.

[alaric]

I'm just looking at taking my car to Greece, and just to clarify:

He can be insured by a UK company on a foreign reg car - In my case my insurers can only insure the car in the UK, or for a limited period whilst abroad. I basically have a grace period to find a local insurer.

He can pay tax in his home country while the car continues to be registered there. Slightly annoying, but there will be British drivers living in Germany paying UK tax, so fair's fair.

Yes the car does have to be taken out of the country after 6 months, but it's not made easy if you need to keep it in country and it is easy not to register it. He can still be traced through his registration and insurer.

Alaric.

[Lostboy]

Thanks for the input guys, seems a reasonable approach to take however I have tried the "speak to" approach; first time he pretended he could not speak English (funny how that seemed to change later on in the year!), second time was when my friend who is fluent in German spoke to him; he claimed the paperwork was 'lost in the post'. This was in August  :shock:

As to if he is a good guy or not - I'm not judging him, him and his family do a few inconsiderate things for the rest of us living on the stair but I've had neighbours be a lot worse...

It's the potential lack of insurance thing that gets me the most. If he were to hit a pedestrian (for example) and cause them injury that is going to require expensive, personal care for the rest of that persons life, there is no policy to cover that cost.

[PUX]

Thanks for the input guys, seems a reasonable approach to take however I have tried the "speak to" approach; first time he pretended he could not speak English (funny how that seemed to change later on in the year!), second time was when my friend who is fluent in German spoke to him; he claimed the paperwork was 'lost in the post'. This was in August  :shock:

As to if he is a good guy or not - I'm not judging him, him and his family do a few inconsiderate things for the rest of us living on the stair but I've had neighbours be a lot worse...

It's the potential lack of insurance thing that gets me the most. If he were to hit a pedestrian (for example) and cause them injury that is going to require expensive, personal care for the rest of that persons life, there is no policy to cover that cost.

sod it grass him up!!!! dont like people like that doin oh i cant spk english then later they do!!! grass him  :twisted:  :twisted:

[Rangie3.0LtrDan]

Well he has had 2 people tell him he needs to do it so i would grass him up.  He is making excuses.

[Horness]

Call your local Police station and express your concern, especially should he be in an accident.

The Police are always ready to jump on a motorist.

[Miniman]

I dont agree with it. Get him sorted. If you want to live in england you must abide by our rules we have to over there. There are to many people over here taking the p**s out of us, Sorry but its getting stupid. The head lights beam is a big problem. If someone with a car full of kids had a crash because of it and you found out you would kick yourself for not doing ( THE RIGHT THING ).

LIVE IN OUR COUNTRY LIVE OUR LAW.....

[PUX]

I dont agree with it. Get him sorted. If you want to live in england you must abide by our rules we have to over there. There are to many people over here taking the p**s out of us, Sorry but its getting stupid. The head lights beam is a big problem. If someone with a car full of kids had a crash because of it and you found out you would kick yourself for not doing ( THE RIGHT THING ).

LIVE IN OUR COUNTRY LIVE OUR LAW.....

=D>  =D>  =D>

[Sharpshooter]

I want to say 'No, give the guy a break', but if it was my car he hit, or child he ran over, I would be most upset (huge understatement).
As suggested, give him a gentle nudge.  It may be a mistake or misunderstanding on his part.

My sentiments exactly..

[Sider]

Hey, as long as he is paying tax in Germany, his insurance is up to date (with either a British or German insurer) and he takes the car down to the continent once every six months, the car is legally in the country, and the insurance is going to cover whatever accidents the chap has.

Having said that, if he hasn't even bothered culling his headlights, it would be a case of either politely asking him to do it, gently tipping off the local Bill, or effectively (as in the most efficient of the options) tell him to do it or risk being crushed by a heavily armed 4x4 next time he dazzles you :D

[Miniman]

tell him to do it or risk being crushed by a heavily armed 4x4 next time he dazzles you :D

That sounds like fun.....

[Sider]

tell him to do it or risk being crushed by a heavily armed 4x4 next time he dazzles you :D

That sounds like fun.....

I'll say, I am full of good ideas. Not necesarily sensible, but good nevertheless.

[Stormin]

I'd say inform the police due to his attitude. Ie pretending not to speak English and being inconsiderate.  You do not have to give your name.

[snezza69]

I am with the general view here.  I do think you should let the police know for their interest, what they do is up to them.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse in this country (and indeed most countries), having lived in Germany for some time I can say that the German police have no tollerance for foreigners breaking the law and the public are certainly keen to inform them of wrong doers.

We are much more tollerant in this country of ours, which is particulary evident here from the large numbers of Portugese and Polish migrant workers who all drive on their nations plates because they get away with it.

I am a little dishartened by the number of times I am dazzled on the roads at night now.  Could this be the reason?

My only concern here for reporting your neighbour is it is likely the police will be reluctant to take any action because of the amount of paperwork and the probability that no conviction will follow due to an overstretched system.....................................

Oh what the hell, just drive over him with your 4x4.

[Sider]

I am with the general view here.  I do think you should let the police know for their interest, what they do is up to them.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse in this country (and indeed most countries), having lived in Germany for some time I can say that the German police have no tollerance for foreigners breaking the law and the public are certainly keen to inform them of wrong doers.

We are much more tollerant in this country of ours, which is particulary evident here from the large numbers of Portugese and Polish migrant workers who all drive on their nations plates because they get away with it.

I am a little dishartened by the number of times I am dazzled on the roads at night now.  Could this be the reason?

My only concern here for reporting your neighbour is it is likely the police will be reluctant to take any action because of the amount of paperwork and the probability that no conviction will follow due to an overstretched system.....................................

Oh what the hell, just drive over him with your 4x4.

It is not a case of getting away with it. It is legal as long as you meet certain requirements. Read my previous post for these.

[clips]

i'd say report it. then let the authorities pass judgement or check appropriateness, and your conscience remains clear, if alls well, then nothing will happen, if it is he did have 12months to sort it.
But you would at least expect some tape on the lights at a minimum :shock:

[davidlandy]

I have thought about this

ignore him - dont get involved - stay out of it

let the dvla pick it up,  like they advertise on the TV

[Sider]

I have thought about this

ignore him - dont get involved - stay out of it

let the dvla pick it up,  like they advertise on the TV

Now that was funny!!!! :lol:

[Bob696]

let the dvla pick it up, like they advertise on the TV

Trouble is the DVLA are bloody usless unless you help them by registering the car to yourself in the first place. Not on their database then they arnt interested.

Shop him. If he does have insurence and german tax then you wont be doing any harm. The boys in blue might even get him to adjust his headlights.

[LandRoger]

He,s taking the Pi**, put a note under his wiper telling him to sort your car out or pay the price! or just ring local plod,

[DISCO-CHRIS]

Oh what the hell, just drive over him with your 4x4.
or post his reg no; and address and one of us will do it for ya!! :lol:  :lol:

[Colin 009]

He,s taking the Pi**, put a note under his wiper telling him to sort your car out or pay the price! or just ring local plod,

You would not be grassing him up, you would be saving lives,

If you know his name and address go down to your nearest callbox and call the police to report the vehicle stolen, then when he's pulled the police will have some paper work to do.