FAO; Jake

[Bush Tucker Man]

Re; 9+Seaters In Lane 3

You may recall i posted a copy from our transport law book regarding vehicles fitted with more than 9 seats are regarded as buses and therfore are not allowed into the outside lane of a motor way or carrage way with 3 lanes or above.
Could you look into it?
For yourself (so you dont get any daft points) and to put the rest of our minds at rest as to if this regards 11 seat Land Rovers.
I, for one, want to know that official line on this as a 110 is on my 'to-do' list at some point.
 :D

It's on my 'To Do' list.
I'm going to enquire with a West Yorkshire Police Traffic Officer when I see one next at the Hospital

I managed to 'button-hole' a Traffic Officer this morning & asked him. Admittedly he wasn't a M-Way man, but got his book of Traffic Laws out to flick through

It falls under the 'Motorways & Traffic (England & Wales) Regulations Act 1982', as Rule 12.
I've done some searching & it's as he interpretated it (there's been an amendment)

Consultation On Amendments

Current Position
1. The Motorways Traffic (England and Wales) Regulations 1982 Regulation 12 (1) (a) and (b) - restriction on use of right hand or off side lane, and the Motorway Traffic (Scotland) Regulations 1995 Regulation 11 (1) (a) and (b) -restriction on use of right hand lane - prohibit goods vehicles with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes and passenger vehicles constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver the maximum laden weight of which exceeds 7.5 tonnes, from using the right hand (or off side lane, in England and Wales) of a three or more lane motorway.

2. This is because these categories of vehicles have been fitted with speed limiters to comply with the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986, as amended. Once fitted with a speed limiter these vehicles are only capable of achieving 56 and 62 mph respectively


NB; Bold, underlined & italic-ed passges are my doing



So it looks as though the regulation applies to essentially (speed restricted) Coaches/Buses, as no LR weighs over 7.5tons.



I'd contact your local Traffic Police Office & enquire, as I was also told it could still be a bit ambiguous given the 110CSW's status in law as a 'Dual-Purpose Vehicle'
Although that Dual-Purpose depends on the role it's being used for (also tachgraph laws if towing a heavy trailer, but then lane 3 is out of bounds anyway)

[Jake]

Its still not clear though.
Read the attachment in my post
It's not the same because it says regardless of gross weight and all vehicles over 3.5 tonnes, not 7.5 tonnes.
Its a bit confusing!
 :?

[Jake]

Are there any traffic Police on here that could offer clarity?
 :)

[Bush Tucker Man]

Its still not clear though.
Read the attachment in my post
It's not the same because it says regardless of gross weight and all vehicles over 3.5 tonnes, not 7.5 tonnes.
Its a bit confusing!
 :?

There's a lot on metal in a 110CSW, but it's nowhere near 3.5tons
The current brochure states maximum laden weight for a 110 as; 3,050kg (& 3,500 kg on HD suspension)

I did state that it's an amendment & clarify it with the local Officers (or can't the routing office/Transport Manager verify the position via th Police???

Are there any traffic Police on here that could offer clarity?

None that I know of, but I know there's at least one on 'LR Net'.
I'll see if he can open this thread

Edit
He's not on-line at the moment