Continuing tyre saga

[BigA]

i know this has all been discussed hundreds of times, and i know i have posted about it already  :? but hear i go again.

Today i tried the BFG 265\75\16's on the Disco and it looked nice  :lol: as you can see from the pictures (jacked up under axle), i will need to trim the arches, but my biggest concern is the width, they stand out quit a bit. Although i think this looks OK  8)  what is the opinion of all you long time disco owners  :?:

Do i need to add a lift ? If so thinking of just a 1" ? If i get these fitted to standard alloys, will it reduce the width (i cant see it will)? Other than having to adjust the steering stops, and make allowances for speedo, any other bits i need to know? and.......... whats the best way to cut out the arches?

that should cover most things i think (ramble..... ramble..... ramble.......)

[disco 200]

I wouldn't bother with wheel arch flares...looks good as it is!

[ChrisW]

The offset on most after market steels is greater than genuine parts alloys or steel wheels so will make them look further out than normal.
Trimming arches is more of a personal thing from what I have seen - you can hack at it, take a jigsaw to it or a pair of steel snips - up to you!
Best finish is to refold after cutting to keep it original looking.
I believe the thing to do is take a straight line from the bottom of the rubbing strip down to about 2-3" back from where the arch currently finishes and cut away!
Best to start with a small cut and do it by trial and error rather than chop and find you've taken too much off.
I think the rear mud-flap bracket may need slightly modifying too.
There's also the school of thought of adding a spacer into the mudflap bracket to push the rear of the arch out further than it currently is to allow the wheel to move up inside the arch.
The only other thing I can see that may need doing that you haven't mentioned is extended bump stops.
Personally, from looking at the pic's I think some heavy duty springs may be in order  

[BigA]

The only other thing I can see that may need doing that you haven't mentioned is extended bump stops.
Personally, from looking at the pic's I think some heavy duty springs may be in order  

Some nice tips to start with... Gulp.... Not fitted the lift yet, but think its gonna need it  :? don't want to fit heavy duty springs, put them on the 90, too hard a ride. Forgot the bump stops cheers.

how do i fold the arches in after cutting  :?:

[paul_humphreys]

Go for Old Man Emu Springs and a 2 inch lift. If you fit the tyers to Disco rims you will lose some stearing lock.
Whats the overall high of the tyers?

Paul

[TimM]

Do the tyres fill the arches or do they STICK OUT, as I'm sure that the tyre must not protrude beyond the arch (or some similar wording) to be legal or MOTable.

Looking at your second picture it is probably a close call.

[BigA]

Whats the overall high of the tyers?

Paul

I will have to measure and let you know.

Do the tyres fill the arches or do they STICK OUT, as I'm sure that the tyre must not protrude beyond the arch (or some similar wording) to be legal or MOTable.

Looking at your second picture it is probably a close call.

Yes, depends on the angle  :lol: if you look dead down the side, they are about flush with the top of the arch, they don't protrude any more than they did on the 90 however.

[davidlandy]

looks good to me. 8)

if it was mine i would lift it by 2".

[dazzawhipple]

Andy

fit some wheel arch plastic bits, trim the wheel arch underneath nobody will see .....unless you run over someone  :twisted:

seriously they look good but trim very carefully, mark it out then bend it slowly Its aluminum It work hardens


Darren

[BigA]

Andy

fit some wheel arch plastic bits, trim the wheel arch underneath nobody will see .....unless you run over someone  :twisted:

seriously they look good but trim very carefully, mark it out then bend it slowly Its aluminum It work hardens


Darren

Darren,

i may be popping round yours to do this..... could do with someone who has done it before looking over my shoulder taking sharp intakes of breath when i am about to do something wrong  :lol:

[goblin]

wheels look good !!   i fitted 265/70/16 colway all terrain to my disco 300 tdi on 7x16 steel modulars these looked similar to yours, but with passengers in the back pot holes and speed humps caused wheels to catch rear arches . so i would recommend a lift , put a 2" lift on mine end of problem

[Richie_EB4]

Speeking from experience...........with any axle articulation those wheels will destroy your arch's and rear doors.........you need to cut out about 60mm all the way around.

Easy to do but just becarefull when cutting the inner arch where the door opens.

[seph234]

this is what they look like on the twisty stuff

[seph234]

if you look at the rear quarter you can see  where i have trimmed it.  joe

[BigA]

if you look at the rear quarter you can see  where i have trimmed it.  joe

it looks as though the lift makes quit a difference, i was hoping to get away with just a 1" lift, but looking at your picture, i am going to have to think again?

[dazzawhipple]

Andy

You could always go the other way and put smaller tyres on !!

Darren

[BigA]

Andy

You could always go the other way and put smaller tyres on !!

Darren

Errrr..... smaller tyres........ i have seen these on now...... no going back  :lol:

[dazzawhipple]

Better get the 2 Inch lift kit sorted dont forget the bump stops and extended brake hoses

If you need a hand yourv'e got my number

Darren

[Fingers Mclean]

The only other thing I can see that may need doing that you haven't mentioned is extended bump stops.
Personally, from looking at the pic's I think some heavy duty springs may be in order  

Some nice tips to start with... Gulp.... Not fitted the lift yet, but think its gonna need it  :? don't want to fit heavy duty springs, put them on the 90, too hard a ride. Forgot the bump stops cheers.

how do i fold the arches in after cutting  :?:

Why change the springs keep what you have got if you like the soft ride and buy a full set of spring spacers..cheaper and you get the lift you want  

[beast5680]

i put 1" spacers under my springs to get a lift but my 265,s are on disco steels so i dont get any arch fouling :D

[davidlandy]

Andy

my advice is to go for the 2" lift - you will end up there anyway so save buying an interim solution and go for the right set up from the off.

it will help you with clearances but you will have to cut a bit and maybe use extended stops.

[dazzawhipple]

looks like dave beat me to if you want a 2 inch then have it


it saves the disco being cut up like a baked bean tin

[beast5680]

Andy

my advice is to go for the 2" lift - you will end up there anyway so save buying an interim solution and go for the right set up from the off.

it will help you with clearances but you will have to cut a bit and maybe use extended stops.

your probably right but not everybody wants to go that far or has the readily available cash to do so, so an interim solution is to lift a little until your able to go the whole hog, i would like to put a nice set of springs , extended bump stops and the rest on but until i can afford it my solution was to fit spacers as they were a fraction of the price of a lift kit and  i can then get away with the larger tyres and i can play offroad etc without causing any undue damage as long as i remember not to be extreme in what i have a go at, and when i have saved enough or i win a lift kit :lol:  i shall progress onwards

[discoman]

do you have to put extended bump stopson with a 2" lift

[davidlandy]

Andy

my advice is to go for the 2" lift - you will end up there anyway so save buying an interim solution and go for the right set up from the off.

it will help you with clearances but you will have to cut a bit and maybe use extended stops.

your probably right but not everybody wants to go that far or has the readily available cash to do so, so an interim solution is to lift a little until your able to go the whole hog.........  

not being funny here but a set of 2" springs is hardly if anything different from the cost of a set of 1" -  and the bumps tops are £7each plus vat from paddocks
 most people who raise to 1" , end up going to 2" , so why bother with 1" in the first place. ie save money!

[beast5680]

i wasnt on about springs i fitted spacers £30 instead of £250 and when more cash is available then go for the "2 lift etc the spacers would give a lift cheaply enabling the larger tyres to be fitted until such time as funds allow for a full lift :D

[BigA]

I originally thought of going for the 2", the reason i am now thinking of only going for the 1" is due to the fact that this is my day to day vehicle, and i think 2" will make too much difference to the general road handling, steering etc. i think that the springs and shocks have been replaced recently, as the ride is not what i would call soft, but firm and very little role, so again another reason to stay with existing.

So...... i thought i would try with 1", using spacers, then not too much cash down the drain if and when i go for the 2".

I am gonna find out if the tyres will swap to the disco alloys, as i think this will help with the offset problem, and the back will have to be chopped anyhow.

If i lift 1", do i need to add spacers to the ARB?

[seph234]

i wouldnt think so on a 1" lift but i might be wrong.  joe