Anti 4x4 Poster in Whitworth

[woody]

I believe it is factually incorrect and biased
as I believe off-roading isn’t illegal (trespassing is) though the term could be misused
it should be done in a responsible manner
where is the picture from, is it public land, private or part of a greenlane?

In the footer there seems to be a lot of  companies, and elected bodies backing this
have they been contacted to find out if they gave their permission for their logo’s to be used.

Are they fully aware of the content of the poster
If the poster is factually incorrect, these bodies should be informed so they can withdraw their support for this campaign
there was a poll on this but it has disapeared

[TimM]

I'd say it was a scam, with the bodies listed at the bottom having nothing to do with it, and I would suspect (I can't be sure from the picture) that the 'before' picture has been doctored to remove signs of a track that has been there for longer than 4x4 have existed.

Got to say though, they can have 8/10 for effort.

I assume (hope) the notice was removed.

[Singlefin]

I'd say it was a scam

If true, then two can play at that game  :twisted:  :twisted:

[Ja1983]

yeah, hardly fair to display two differant areas of pic, how u supposed to compare, likewise, seems like some red sock has discovered a computer and a printer!

although section 59 warnings are been dished out ... i should know!

[Colin 009]

what poster  :?:

[Ja1983]

the one that was removed.... and might be hosted somewhere off MC if someone manages to send it to the right people  

[Ja1983]

*edit*

i think were reffering to THIS one here ?

 :D

[Eeyore]

I believe it is factually incorrect and biased
as I believe off-roading isn’t illegal (trespassing is)

Ah, as a rule 'off-roading' is an offence unless undertaken with the permission of the land owner. This includes farm land, wasteland, commons, non-vehicular RoW, etc.

Tresspass doesn't exist in vehicles. Tresspass is a civil offense. Non-permissive off-roading (i.e. straying away from the public rights of way) is a criminal offence under the road traffic act (can't remember which bit). So the poster is in many respects factually accurate.

Green laning, is (currently  :roll:  ) a perfectly legal pastime that is under taken on vehicular rights of way (RUPPs, BOATS, UCRs etc) that aren't subject to some form of regulation / stopping order. Where the poster is damned contentious is when the vehicular RoW is dual status, i.e. it's shown on the map as a lower RoW whilst still carrying full vehicular rights. Lets say, like 'Chapelgate' in Derbyshire, or the TRO'd 'Long Lane' in Yorkshire. Both shown on the map as bridleways, so your average bobble hat will get all uppity and phone plod when you have every right to be there. However there are many, many more bridleways that will be illegal to drive.

So, off-roading = illegal (unless given permission)
Green laning = legal.

This why groups like LARA, GLASS and CRAG work so hard to tell folk and MPs and Lords that laning ain't 'froading. There's a significant legal difference between the two.

Trial by context, anyone?  

HTH
cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[bezzabsa]

looked like a very bad 'touch up' seems funny that the start end 'visable' end of the lane were still there, and that the rutted part ws lusher grass than in the other pic.. hmm even same weather, rocks, and daylight!!