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This is complete.... Stupidity.I mean, are 4x4s really the problem here, or is the problem IRRISPONSABLE use of the 4x4. It's all fair and well to attack the 4x4, you have a right to an opinion and a right to make it known.A Series 3 Land Rover 88" is a short vehicle, in fact, they are shorter than a Ford Mondeo. You get a better view of the road and you ARE helping the environment.The Series 3 production was halted in the Late 80's, and surley by keeping said vehicle on the road you are not putting one more on the road, which would cause pollution to build that vehicle, and you're not causing pollution by scrapping your Land Rover.I agree that the Chelsea tractor (BMW X3/X5) is a COMPLETE waste of space, but things like Discoverys, Defenders and Suzuki Jimny's are not, because they CAN actually be used off road, and people do use them.At the end of the day, we're not going to be able to please everyone, but by attacking one group you are lowering yourself to the level of genocide, maybe without the killing, but it's not far off.
Come on mud-clubbers, as responsible users of 4x4's we should not get hot-headed when people attack the Chelsea Tractors, instead realise that they are causing damage to the environment.
I reckon the best solution would be to make 4x4's as unfashionable as possible. Therefore, whenever I drive my landy, I shall make sure I'm wearing spandex and have snot in my beard.
As to causing damage to the enviroment that in itself is debatable. Greenhouse gasses from cows, running on veg oil/lpg, mpg and even is global warming man made at all
Quote from: "Bob696"As to causing damage to the enviroment that in itself is debatable. Greenhouse gasses from cows, running on veg oil/lpg, mpg and even is global warming man made at all If Dinosaurs had 4x4's do you think we'd have had the Ice Age :-k Do enviromentalists ever look at this planets past? Earth has gone through many climate changes, we may not have helped with some, but it could be some natural changes are happening. and as for emissions, volcanos produce more sulphur and other gases than my 4x4 will ever churn out. I'd like to see Greenpeace try and stop mother nature as she's one evil lady when you get her back up :shock:
I think people here are missing the point of the article. I totally agree with what the article is saying, that is that people in cities with no practical use for a 4x4 are harming the environment.I dont think even the antis are against anyone owning a series 3, a rugged defender or disco. What they are against are sparkling discos, rangies and other makes such as BMW and Porche which are never used for the means that a 4x4 is required. If you have horses, put a sticker in the rear window or something else which highlights that you DO have a use for the vehicle.I think that inner city 4x4's (Chelsea Tractors) are totally pointless and only cause damage to the environment, which we DO have a responsibility for.totally agree with that.Come on mud-clubbers, as responsible users of 4x4's we should not get hot-headed when people attack the Chelsea Tractors, instead realise that they are causing damage to the environment.Instead of fighting off the arguements against 4x4's we could more constructively use our time and efforts to highlight that other cars, which aren't AWD can cause as much of a problem to the environment, and as they move faster and have less of a view of the road probably cause more accidents.
Well, I've tried to register, but for some reason I can't validate my email addy; also, I'm feeling very inadequate, cos I've been driving my Landy for over 3 years now, and I STILL haven't grown a pen!s!! :(bigcry): :(bigcry): BTW, I love the way D Smith changes their definition of 'evil 4x4' every time an owner challenges him/her!! :(biglaugh):
I feel this article implies that everyone who drives a 4x4 is doing it soley to increase their social status and without regard to the health or saftey of anyone else?!! wheres the helpful factual and productive part of that?? i dont feel this could be any more unfair or biased if he was to say all 4x4 drivers are c :shock: ts! thankyou
Quote from: "Dirty Gertie"Well, I've tried to register, but for some reason I can't validate my email addy; also, I'm feeling very inadequate, cos I've been driving my Landy for over 3 years now, and I STILL haven't grown a pen!s!! :(bigcry): :(bigcry): :Oh Gertie I am so pleased you havnt grown one :lol:
Well, I've tried to register, but for some reason I can't validate my email addy; also, I'm feeling very inadequate, cos I've been driving my Landy for over 3 years now, and I STILL haven't grown a pen!s!! :(bigcry): :(bigcry): :
