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« on: May 23, 2006, 17:20:14 »
Just got home from work to find my neighbour having his drive dug up which is fine apart from the fact he has got the pikies in to do it! I gave him a price to landscape the whole garden and do the drive and he said it was expensive, which is fine not fussed if we did it or not but why do people use pikies?? he will be wondering why he used them when is drive has sunk after two months because there is no type one under it. they think they are saving money :lol:  we caught a pair trying to steal tools from our van last year, they dont pay taxes and drive stolen motors and use stolen tools. i cant see what makes people think it is a good idea to give them money? Im also concerned that when i got in from work one of them was at the botom of our drive on his phone looking at the two off road prepeared landys on our drive there one being mine and one my dads and brotheres i just hope they dont try anything tonight!

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 17:28:45 »
You best keep a Baseball bat handy tonight then!  :twisted:
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 17:30:24 »
Definately keep an ear open for any sort of noise tonight, and the forseeable future!  :evil:
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 17:35:49 »
Yep, keep an eye open, pikeys will do anything for cash.... especially if its easy work.....such as stripping and selling a landy.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 17:36:24 »
one will be going in the garage but that will be dads i would put the dog in mine over night but then they would only take her too! i will try and chain it to something. maybe i could winch it up a tree and they wont notice it up there
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 18:00:47 »
take 2 of the wheels off and put it on axle stands?
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 18:07:37 »
I find leave a load of engine parts around the front of it and they wont touch it :lol: ( oh make sure the parts are old broken ones)
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 18:11:47 »
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I find leave a load of engine parts around the front of it and they wont touch it :lol: ( oh make sure the parts are old broken ones)
well i do have plenty of old, broken parts :lol:
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 18:15:16 »
Take the wire of the start solenoid on the fuel pump is a favourite. Quick, and effective. Also leavi it in Low range. At least then they cant make a quick getaway. :)
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 19:03:00 »
Wire to the MAINS............
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2006, 19:06:42 »
Not much use to most people here, but on farms we have handy size main fuel tanks, which pikeys (or gyppos) will happily steal from. The trick here is to use a hidden fuel tank, but leave a dummy tank in an obvios location. The dummy tank can be filled with a variety of substances including sugar, water, silage aditive etc. infact anything that will ruin an engine, just make sure theres enough diesel in the tank so they don't realise. :twisted:  :twisted:
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 20:11:34 »
we have a tank outside work that looks like a diesel tank, the pikies emptyied this one night, unlucky for them it is full of a very thin coolant oil we use in the pumps,

que lots of smokeing transits  :D
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2006, 08:44:18 »
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Wire to the MAINS............


you beat me to it :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2006, 09:28:29 »
get a cctv camera from argos or your local hard wear store easy to set up

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2006, 10:16:10 »
maybe your neighbour is a researcher for house of horrors on itv :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2006, 12:00:06 »
I saw some pikies come out of an off-licence a couple of years back when I was in the Landy.  They asked how much I wanted for it, I said "more than you can afford".  As I drove off one of them punched the side, made a really loud bang.  Got quite scared as the off-licence is about 5 doors from my house, we don't have any off street parking at all.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2006, 17:22:02 »
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maybe your neighbour is a researcher for house of horrors on itv :lol:  :lol:
well if he is they will have a field day they have dug it out no more than 100mm, considering the recomended amount of type one is 100mm (we always put down 150mm on drive ways to be on the safe side)and then 50mm of sand + the block its self  is 60 mm that is an absolute minimum depth of 210mm to be dug out, i wonder if he will come and ask me why i think is drive has sunk, (i hope he does)
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2006, 17:57:55 »
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take 2 of the wheels off and put it on axle stands?

They might nick your axle stands then :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2006, 17:59:39 »
Wiree off the starter solenoid to a very loud siren unit, availble from maplins. For best effect tie it into the headlights too.

Nothing like a car going 'LOOK I'M BEING STOLEN' to send em running for cover. Specially if they've already got in and assumed no alarm :)
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2006, 17:55:22 »
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Wiree off the starter solenoid to a very loud siren unit, availble from maplins. For best effect tie it into the headlights too.

Nothing like a car going 'LOOK I'M BEING STOLEN' to send em running for cover. Specially if they've already got in and assumed no alarm :)

now i like that idea :D
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2006, 18:02:18 »
well now im worried my neighbour asked me to go and have a look at it tonight and oh my god what a disaster it isnt even nearly dug out deep enough there is no more than 20mm of type1 down! he hadnt even asked them to start he came out of his house to find them digging it up! although he had said they had got the job he said not untill atleast september he told them last night that he wasnt happy and they were not to come back, now the problems begin, they came round and said they want two grand to go away,  and that unless they finish the job every load of rubbish they get from other jobs will be dumped outside his house! he has also angered them by telling them that he is now going to get me to do it, great now they have something against me! these people are unbelievable they have threatened him, damaged his house and dug up his garden without being told told to! absoltly shoking

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2006, 18:29:08 »
Police job mate and get CCTV fitted soon

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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2006, 20:43:18 »
I always find talking nicely to them but being firm when it scomes to saying no is best. We had loads in at the car dealership i used to work at....and btw they probably can easily afford your landrover and mine aswell in readies! One guy bought a van 12k walked in with used notes the following day.......
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2006, 20:51:47 »
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Wiree off the starter solenoid to a very loud siren unit, availble from maplins. For best effect tie it into the headlights too.

Nothing like a car going 'LOOK I'M BEING STOLEN' to send em running for cover. Specially if they've already got in and assumed no alarm :)





that could be done through a relay set on a hiden switch real easy to do
GREAT IDEA :D  :D
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2006, 10:34:55 »
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get a cctv camera from argos or your local hard wear store easy to set up

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What so you can watch them steal it over and over again  :D   :D
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2006, 11:52:52 »
CCTV isnt much use TBH. If the footage isnt perfectly clear the police wont accet this. We've had footage turned down from the £300 night sight IR cams that Tesco use and indded the internal shop cams because of poor quality before now.

If you must get one spend the money on a good colour camera and if you need night sight, a decent IR illuminator.
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2006, 12:40:27 »
May be worth your neighbour contacting consumer direct on 08454 040506 http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/.

Through them he can get civil advice and trading stadards will be informed who may take enforcement action.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2006, 16:18:28 »
Unfortunately, its the same old story. People think cheap is good, and end up suffering for it. I can't believe your neighbour was that daft, especially with all the consumer awareness stuff on the box at the moment.
My mum in law (bless her) had one of the leaflets come through the letterbox,offering hedge removal cheap. She stupidly got them to come round and they were giving her stupid quotes as well as saying they could do the gutters cheap with UPVC, even though it was obvious they had just been done.
Luckily I was off shift and a few subtle hints like mentioning trade descriptions act, Environmental Health act and Wildlife and Countryside Act confused their poor minds and off they went. That and a few well place usages of words begining with 'F' etc.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2006, 18:55:40 »
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Wiree off the starter solenoid to a very loud siren unit, availble from maplins. For best effect tie it into the headlights too.

Nothing like a car going 'LOOK I'M BEING STOLEN' to send em running for cover. Specially if they've already got in and assumed no alarm :)





that could be done through a relay set on a hiden switch real easy to do
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2006, 19:17:42 »
put my land rover on the drive way they will never get away in that. I cant get the damm thing working and i have the keys!
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