Opinions on Bronco retreads or remoulds in general

[Hangover]

Anybody fitted Bronco retreads especially the 'Grip Edge' tyre,thinking of fitting these all terrain tyres as i don't want to fork out again for Goodrich at about £100 each.
Cheers,
Kev

[Bob696]

I have a set of grip edges fitted. Replaced my trac edges that were too small when I fitted the lift.

Off road they are pretty damn good.

On road they appear to be wearing quicker than I would expect and are a touch noiser than the trac edges probably due to a softer compond?

For the price I like them.

[ian_s]

remoulds used to have a bad reputation, and some people still wont use remoulds.
make sure you check the speed rating as well. afaik, its illegal to use a tyre of lower speed rating than your vehicle is capable of. (except in emergencies, ie space saver spares)

personally i'll be buying remoulds when i next need tyres

[Jas278]

Thanks for asking. MY OPINION , I would nt touch a Bronco tyre with a barge pole, due to personal expierience and on going legal action.

[bullfrog]

I would not put a remoulded tyre on a vehicle that weighs around 2 tons !
They are ok for offroad use and town cars .
Most are not rated for the higher speeds of some 4x4s and can overheat and peel !! :shock:
I have seen several range rovers with cheap retreads on with kids in the back !
Strange that these folk can afford to run a V8 yet wont spend out for proper tyres.
Just my oppinion though. :)

[Hangover]

I would not put a remoulded tyre on a vehicle that weighs around 2 tons !

They put remoulds on 40 ton lorries.

[v8kenny]

Got to agree with Bullfrog - Tyres are your last line of defence and heavy braking and/or swerving in a 4x4 is bad enough without doing it on remoulds
I would never dream of putting remoulds on a road going 4x4 - especially if I was going to be carrying kids, and in any case they are false economy as their wear rate is horrendous compared to say a BFG or similar
I bet you can go through 3 sets of remoulds for one good set so wheres the saving ?
Don't be tight - buy some decent tyres ! :lol:

[ian_s]

I would not put a remoulded tyre on a vehicle that weighs around 2 tons !

They put remoulds on 40 ton lorries.

they put remoulds on airplanes.

[v8kenny]

I would not put a remoulded tyre on a vehicle that weighs around 2 tons !

They put remoulds on 40 ton lorries.

they put remoulds on airplanes.

Well rightly or wrongly I STILL wouldn't put them on my Landies - just my opinion mind

[Hangover]

Don't be tight

Tight....me,thrifty more like. :)

[v8kenny]

Don't be tight

Tight....me,thrifty more like. :)

 :lol:  :lol:

[ian_s]

if they were unsafe, they wouldnt be sold.
if you wouldnt put remoulds on as they were unsafe, would you put offroad biased tyres on? what i have always done so far is to have 2 sets of tyres
1 offroad set, (so far they have been michelin XCLs) and a set of road tyres.

[Thrasher]

As Captain Vimes pointed out :

One of the reasons the rich stay rich is that they buy ONE pair of expensive shoes, instead of 5 pairs of cheap shoes that cost more in the long run than the ONE pair of "expensive" shoes.......

In other words, you get what you pay for (mostly) :-)

P.S. My current record is 11 years for a pair of Nikes - and yes I DO wear them, and 15 years for a pair of DM's.......

[v8kenny]

Fair enough Ian but if you are running remoulds to save money then why buy 2 sets ?
Far cheaper in the long run to buy either a good all terrain or my personal favourite BFG mud terrains which behave very well on and off road for my needs and last forever
Again this is just my humble opinion - each to their own......................

[Hangover]

15 years for a pair of DM's.......

Can you get DM's in 235/85/16 size?? :)

[jjsaul]

one of the reason i dont put BFG's (or other expensive tyres) on mine isnt that they last longer...its if you rip one open offroad, a remould costs you £50 , not £120 for a BFG etc!!!!!
so it isnt being tight, its that i couldnt afford to replace it.

and although i havnt personally ripped a tyre yet, i know plenty of friends who have (remoulds and bfg's)

we have grip edges on the 110 and yes they do wear pretty quick but they seem decent tyres.
i have macho's on my RRC and again they wear fast (could be to do with my driving) so i bought a set of G Grabber road tyres as well.
ive just bought a set of bronco grizzly claws for my project but havnt used them yet so i cant comment.

HTH

James

[v8kenny]

Iv'e just done a quick calculation
My last set of BFGmuds were bought 6 years ago at a cost of £420 which included modular wheels and delivery to my door
They saw me through two 110 V8's and over 48000 miles
I then sold them on for £80 so nett cost to me was £340
Over 312 weeks that works out at less than £1.09 a week - a fair comment ?

[LandRoger]

I have used the Bronco Roughrider M Tyres on my 90 , its a BFG M T copy - and i rate them highly good in the mud exellent on road and they wear well too, and at 50.00 a corner a real good deal - i dont have a problem with Retreads as they are made to a British standard - and provideing you drive like a 4x4 should be driven with its high centre of gravity shouldnt have a problem on the road,

[Thrasher]

I rate MT/R's - £375-£400 for a set and I got 50,000 out of them.....can't fault 'em. They have tougher sidewalls too.....

....although I should bow out of this conversation seeing as I spent nearly £1400 on a second set of wheels and mud tyres for Owl....

[jjsaul]

Strange that these folk can afford to run a V8 yet wont spend out for proper tyres.

My RRC is the same cost per mile on fuel as mums rover 200 thank you.

[jjsaul]

Iv'e just done a quick calculation
My last set of BFGmuds were bought 6 years ago at a cost of £420 which included modular wheels and delivery to my door
They saw me through two 110 V8's and over 48000 miles
I then sold them on for £80 so nett cost to me was £340
Over 312 weeks that works out at less than £1.09 a week - a fair comment ?

Unfair calculation. If you didnt use your landy at all you could have sold them 'as new' and got a lot more back.

And also a lot of companies recommend you dont use tyres over 6 yrs old!

[Thrasher]

...oh and er....really I don't actually own *any* vehicles that could wear re-treads legally.

The only reason the last L322 I had could wear the MT/R's was because they were listed as "optional fitment" in the user manual. Obviously the supercharged one *cannot* run with the same muds :(

[v8kenny]

....although I should bow out of this conversation seeing as I spent nearly £1400 on a second set of wheels and mud tyres for Owl....

That's more than my V8 pick up cost me  :shock:

[jjsaul]

....although I should bow out of this conversation seeing as I spent nearly £1400 on a second set of wheels and mud tyres for Owl....

That's more than my V8 pick up cost me  :shock:

thats nearly 10 times what my last RRC cost me  :twisted:

[v8kenny]

Iv'e just done a quick calculation
My last set of BFGmuds were bought 6 years ago at a cost of £420 which included modular wheels and delivery to my door
They saw me through two 110 V8's and over 48000 miles
I then sold them on for £80 so nett cost to me was £340
Over 312 weeks that works out at less than £1.09 a week - a fair comment ?

Unfair calculation. If you didnt use your landy at all you could have sold them 'as new' and got a lot more back.

And also a lot of companies recommend you dont use tyres over 6 yrs old!

If I didn't use my Landy why would I buy new tyres for it ???
And why do you think I sold them after 6 years  :lol: - (to a mate purely for use on his unroadworthy farm hack before you say more !)

[Thrasher]

thats nearly 10 times what my last RRC cost me  

Yeah .. but it's around 54 times LESS than what my current RR cost me..... :oops:  :roll:

[Hovis]

I've got Broncos on my SJ, it doesn't go quick enough to cause problems with peel and it spends 90% of its time in mud.

I'd never have remolds on my car.

[jjsaul]

well im fairly happy with my machos....ive had far more than the national speed limit out of them (on a private road of course ) for fairly long periods and they dont get even get especially warm.

[Edge]

As for the speed rating..... in one of the "many" previous posts on the subject.... someone pointed me to the fact that the speed rating must be to the legal road speed limit..... not the top speed of the vehicle.
I'll do a search for the legal write up on it..........

Here we go......

REGULATION 25 :
This Regulation is concerned with the tyres load index and speed ratings. It specifically deals with, items such as the tyres fitted to Goods Vehicles, Buses and Trailers and for which a Ministry Plating Certificate must have been issued, and a Ministry Plate attached to the vehicle. Amongst other vehicle information the Plate, which must be securely attached to the vehicle in a conspicuous location, gives the maximum axle and gross vehicle operating weights. The Regulation requires that the tyres fitted to the vehicle are not only capable of supporting the maximum permitted load on each axle but of doing so at the vehicle’s maximum legal speed. In defining “load–capacity index” and “speed category” the Regulation makes reference to UN ECE Regulations 30 and 54 and to the European Union Directive 92/23/EEC.

You'll notice 3rd line up..... "vehicle's maximum LEGAL speed".

[rollazuki]

remould tyres have to pass safety tests, and speed ratings.
remould tyres are available for sports vehicles.
colway make a full range of 'rally' remould tyres(that sporty enough for ya?)
remould tyres are available for sports motorbikes.
the majority of heavy goods tyres in UK are remoulded
the majority of bus/coach tyres in UK are remoulded
aircraft(jet) tyres are remoulded
remoulding tyres is the 'green' option
remoulded tyre carcasses are fully inspected before remoulding
Personally Ive got 20k miles from a set of colway MT's, before discarding(still with about 5mm tread but now not so good off road)

I feel happy with remoulds, if its a personal choice, then OK, but if its safety/wear/speed/environment, then Id say go remould......