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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2006, 13:45:01 »
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If I hadnt just put the deposit down on a disco, and didnt already have 2 MOTless motors on the inlaws drive I'd have been interested in buying it without a test!

and what might you have offered? A serious question ... feel free to PM if you'd prefer.

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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2006, 13:51:31 »
Gords

I might be interested as well!!!

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« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2006, 13:56:51 »
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I might be interested as well!!!

well, make me an offer then :wink:

Let me know if the offer is for "with" or "without" MOT.

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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2006, 14:15:13 »
The ABS light comes on as a bulb test with the ignition, the ABS is in diagnostic mode then untill it sees all 4 sensors record over 5mph at which point it goes out.  Strictly speaking as the car will not be driven in the MOT bay this cannot be checked, it's a loophole.

If the sensors keep recording air gap to big and you are finding they are moving it's becasue they have been disturbed and should have had a new retaining clip fitted.  I've not done this yet but it's supposed to be easy.  The wheel bearings will not be helping matters but we all know how easy they are to do, don't we Tim :wink:

As for the leaks, try my mate here http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Dukeries-Engineering-Ltd. the PAS stop leak works!
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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2006, 14:26:39 »
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As for the leaks, try my mate here http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Dukeries-Engineering-Ltd. the PAS stop leak works!

Err, that link doesn't work...

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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2006, 14:44:19 »
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Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
As for the leaks, try my mate here http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Dukeries-Engineering-Ltd. the PAS stop leak works!

Err, that link doesn't work...


Funny, it did when I posted.  Ok try this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Power-Steering-Stop-Leak-That-works-PAS-Seals-Etc_W0QQitemZ4616648346QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and then go to the shop for anything else you need.
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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2006, 15:11:16 »
I think the following are easy fixes, parts are relatively cheap and the work easy to do at home. For me that makes it repairable.

  • Horn does not function - Earthing or replace with Halfords special (£10?)
  • Parking brake has no reserve travel - Re-adjust
  • Anti-lock braking system warning lamp indicates an ABS fault[/color]
  • centre front steering damper seal failed and leaking oil - Four nuts and a new damper (£20 to £40 depending on preference)
  • Nearside registration lamp not working - How much is a bulb these days?!
  • Power steering component(s) leaking[/color]
  • Offside rear shock absorber has negligible damping effect - Change it or the pair (£20 to £40 each depending on preference)
  • Offside rear shock absorber has a serious fluid leak - See above
  • Nearside rear brake pipe inadequately clipped - buy some clips/zip ties!
  • Offside rear brake pipe inadequately clipped - See above
  • Nearside rear wheel bearing excessive roughness in rear wheel bearing - Replace, takes about 3-6 hours per wheel depending on how many hammers you have  :wink: (£10 to £20 per wheel depending on source)
  • Offside rear wheel bearing excessive roughness in rear wheel bearing - See above
  • Parking brake efficiency below requirements - NEw shoes, drum & transfer box seal (as it's probably leaking into drum affecting grip) again. relatively easy to do and pretty cheap (£30 tho £50 depending on source but including new handbrake cable if necessary)
Might take a few weeks to do it at home but for minimal effort you've solved the biggest part of the list leaving some spare cash  :lol:  to spend on the more serious bits!

Good luck

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« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2006, 15:21:44 »
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I think the following are easy fixes, parts are relatively cheap and the work easy to do at home. For me that makes it repairable.

As I've said previously, it's not necessarily the MOT failure list - it's the list of stuff that's happened before and the list of stuff still looming.

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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2006, 18:49:00 »
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I think the following are easy fixes, parts are relatively cheap and the work easy to do at home. For me that makes it repairable.

As I've said previously, it's not necessarily the MOT failure list - it's the list of stuff that's happened before and the list of stuff still looming.


sounds like a friday afternoon car :lol:
my frontera was like that. :(

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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2006, 18:57:58 »
Dont bother with the garage route Gordon
Give Neal a shout.
He has offered  :wink:
I've changed all my wheel bearing now (never done a wheel bearing in my life) and they wer'nt that hard.
I'd gladly help out too if you need a hand.
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2006, 09:46:21 »
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Dont bother with the garage route Gordon

It will only be a last resort but hopefully I can do everything ... with a little help from my friends :wink:
Quote from: "Jake"

Give Neal a shout.
He has offered  :wink:

Already have ... just waiting for him to check his schedule :wink:
Quote from: "Jake"
I've changed all my wheel bearing now (never done a wheel bearing in my life) and they wer'nt that hard.
I'd gladly help out too if you need a hand.
 :D

What you doing this weekend? :D


The plan is to take it off the road tomorrow (actually, I don't have any choice!) and do the work myself (-ish, see above). Unfortunately, the (warranty replacement) shock absorber is out of stock until mid July, so it's going to be out of service for a few weeks :(

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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2006, 09:47:00 »
These bloody MOT stations can really crank it up if they think your not savvy. . . . .

My daughters just been ripped off from a garage near Tregoyd just up the road from brecon . . . . . . i wouldent mind but id just give her the car an it was allways serviced. . . . . . [!Expletive Deleted!] must av seen er coming . . . . . .

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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2006, 11:50:38 »
for a start i'd find a new MOT station... sounds like they don't know what they are doing, are REALY picky and quite possibly fishing for work, hoping you were going to ask them to fix it.... there are some real wa**ers out there.........

go to someone who does Landrovers regularly, i'd certainly recomend RJ Harvey in Essex but they are a bit far from you.

most of those faults can be solved with minimal money and time, wheel bearings are probably the cause of your ABS probs, and can be rebuilt in about 2 hours each side.

the handbrake drum needs removing and checking for oil leaks from the rear of the transfer box, then clean and sandpaper the inside of the drum and shoes, sanding increases the friction and helps it grip.

steam clean all the power steering fluid leaks...

i'm sure there are a few people on here that'll help you out, some have already offered... if i was a bit nearer i certainly would.

ask around for people to recomend a Landrover friendly MOT station.... i took my old 110 H/T to a local garage (not landrover friendly) a few years ago, who refused to test it as they said it was too heavy!!!!!

local Landy experts (RJ Harvey) tested it straight away.....

good luck, you will get sorted, and if you do want rid of it, it'll be easier to shift with a new MOT.....
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2006, 12:04:05 »
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for a start i'd find a new MOT station... sounds like they don't know what they are doing, are REALY picky and quite possibly fishing for work, hoping you were going to ask them to fix it.... there are some real wa**ers out there.........

The car went to a garage first for a few tweaks and they took it to the MOT station. Both the garage and the MOT station have a good reputation (as far as I've heard) ... and I'm sure they are doing the MOT tests to the letter (and I'm fine with that)!

Unfortunately, we have a hosepipe ban so jet washing stuff is not possible! I might try Gunk (or similar) though.

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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2006, 13:55:24 »
jet washes are not covered by the hosepipe ban...... theres a loophole in the law.... (might be wrong, but pretty sure i'm right)

i would find a landy friendly place and take it for the test yourself... its all well and good having stuff tested 'to the letter' but quite a bit of it is subjective, and a 'common sense' tester won't pass vehicles that are dangerous, but they might be a bit more realistic....  there are a lot of silly things on the MOT test, and if you get a tester who had a row with his mrs before work, or has been told to 'look for work' they can find all sorts of things wrong......
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H/D Steering rods, Steering guards, diff guards, discoparts H/D rear bumper, rocksliders with tree bars, 245/75r16 General Grabber AT2's..

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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2006, 16:46:13 »
Hi Gordon, don,t know if it is any help but if you can get the landy to Pauls barn I am sure we could sort out most of it for you and you can pick it up when its done.
 On the other hand you do sound as if you have reached the point of giving up. This does happen often and to some of us more often than others :wink: . We all know that running a landie of any description is not cheap(fuel costs), they all need jobs doing,( all the time) :evil: parts are cheap enough but labour is not. Couple this with other nagging none MOT problems and a garage that sound as if they are short of work (HOLIDAY SEASON IS UPON THEM!!) and you can get really miffed off. If you can put up with the train for a while and can fund the bits that need replacing than we can have you back off the road (pun) in no time.
 I do have some rangie power steering bits (and thay are all the same) I also might have the wheel barings and definatly have a steering damper laid about some where. All it will cost you is a 24 pack of Carlsberg.
 The engine smoke though is either a fouled injector or a heater plug a very common problem on 300 tdi's and as long as the smoke is black this is all it will probobly be. The coolant leak is more likely the P gasket and this would be about £90 at a garage ie Joe Edwards. Gearbox though you are on your own I don't know much about them, I might hazard a guess or two if and when I see you. I could though also lend you an es9000 till your new on turns up as I happen to have a set that I wont be using for a while.
  All said you do have to bear in mind though you will probably have a list as long next year, its how land rovers are and the way we drive them,
             let me know Ian


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« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2006, 20:56:42 »
A Big Thank You to Neal (beast5680) for helping me with the wheel bearings today :D  (plus a few other bits)

We also managed, against all odds, to clip the brake lines back into their holders on the axle - so that's another job off the list :lol:

The steering damper has been replaced. The ABS issue should also be cleared now the bearings are sorted. The defective horn has been removed (leaving the other working one). The rear shock has been removed pending the arrival of the (free) replacement.

The handbrake shoes have magically worn themselves away in a very short period of time  :?  a new set will be on order tomorrow.

The rear number plate bulb possibly does not work ... it's also possibly due to the fact that the holder has almost disintegrated :shock:  Something else for the shopping list!

So, that just leaves the steering box ... a job for another day.

If anyone has a left hand horn or a number plate bulb holder, let me know :)

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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2006, 22:15:12 »
Glad to have been of assistance Gordon  :D
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« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2006, 22:26:33 »
Well, out of the blue, the replacement shock turned up today :shock:  That was a quick 2 - 3 weeks :roll:

I'm getting worried ... things are going far too well ... ooh I shouldn't have said that ... poop, I already have  :lol:

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« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2006, 21:28:18 »
Quote from: "Hannibal Smith"
I love it when a plan comes together


Indeed
 8)
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« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2006, 00:53:37 »
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wont bother again, it would have been polite to say no thankyou but to just ignore is rude in anyones book[b][/b]


Ian - I thought I had sent you a Private Message, but it appears that I hadn't :oops:

Please accept my apology for not replying to you - your offer was very kind, but it wasn't feasable due to my work commitments, etc.

 






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