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« on: October 16, 2006, 21:32:52 »
OK so my Bandit is on HP - I have 12 months left on it, but as I dont ride it as much as i'd like - and other reasons that i dont wish to go into, how do i stand about either selling it and paying the hp off - or selling it back to the hp company -or supplying dealer (if possible).
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 21:37:59 »
if you sell to a dealer as part ex they will sort it out for you, had the same with a car we got on HP, but selling private you have 2 options, don't say anything when you sell and then just pay it off, get a release figure from them before hand, or try to pay it off 1st with a small loan that you pay back on completion of the sale.

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 21:39:47 »
Contact the finance company and they will advise you, get it in righting
then you know exactly where you stand
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2006, 21:43:59 »
thanks for the quick replies!
just having a bad few days, and all i need is a knock at the door for doing something wrong!
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2006, 23:23:13 »
I wouldnt sell it and keep quiet.  If for what ever reason you dont pay one month the new owner can lose his pride and joy!  Get a loan and pay it off, sell it privately.  Ive never had much dealings with bike dealers but its gotta be the same as cars.  No dealer will ever give you as much as you would get privately.  Its worth the extra effort.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 01:59:22 »
Hi Beezabsa

Here is a rough  guide, I used to work in the finance industry, so have some knowledge of the way the contract are drwn up. However, check your contract and let me know what type of contract it is for a more definative answer.
My advice would also be to check the wording of the contract very, very carefully, especially the small print on the back - check with citizens advice to be certain.

If you sell the bike and there is outstanding HP then you are legally obliged to settle the finance before parting company with the bike. If you sell it and say nothing you have committed and offence - fraud.
Beware also that the buyer does not  find ouut and report you for attempting or actually de-frauding him and the finance co - you could then find that the bike is repossessed by the finance co but you still owe the buyer his money - I have seen this happen and it is not nice.
Also if the finance co is owed say £2500 they sell bike in the auction but only realise £1500 you still owe them £1000 plus all their costs and the costs of their recovery agents - repo man!!

Remember many people sell the goods - cars, bikes, boats, etc, etc and then clear the finance, this is technically an offence but if you pay off the loan then no harm done, however, if anything goes wrong, ie you can't or don't pay off the loan you are then liable in every way.

If you part ex with a dealer they are legally obliged to pay the loan off before selling the bike on.
The above is of course only true if the bike is subject to a Hire Purchase Agreement, which should be subject to the consumer credit act 1974 and the various revisions since - there have been numerous.
If the "HP" agt is actually a personal loan then you are the owner of the bike and can dispose of it however you wish and not necessarily pay the loan off - beware of the obvious traps.
If the HP agt is a Lease, lease purchase then you probably do not have the right to sell the bike anyway, if it is a Personal Contract Plan it can come under any of the above dependant on the way the contract is drawn up and worded.

There is also another poss get out clause, if the agt is a "Hire Purchase" Agt - on the documents there should be two boxes - changed recently but probably the case on your docs  - one is the "halves" box the other is the "Thirds" box.
Once you have paid one third of the total amount inc interest etc, the car /bike or whatever the goods are cannot be repossessed withouut the HP co getting a court order, the other box- the "Halves" will state that once you have paid half the total amount inc interest etc, you have the right to return the bike to the HP co and walk away, there are many clauses that can affect both these areas so check the wording of your agt.
Not generally recommended unless you have no other options open to you or unless the goods have dropped in value so dramatically that even to sell them would not give you the money to cover the outstanding loan.
The finance industry are lobbying the govt to get this removed as it costs them (EDIT) loads of money every year - although I'm sure they don't go short!!

Hope this helps, if you want any other advice let me know, here or email/pm me and I will let you know asap.

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