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« on: October 26, 2006, 18:53:37 »
I saw this Series 3 in Sainsburycar-park the other week when I went to get a birthday cake for SWMBO.

The front end attracted my eyes



It has a disc-brake conversion
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 18:58:56 »
it also has defender doors....
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 19:45:51 »
Mine has defender doors as well, but would be interested in disc brakes! lol

Need to get it sorted first though, seems the petrol tank has a slight leak as i am using far too much fuel!
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 20:17:08 »
Has anyone else done or seen a disc conversion on a series???
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 20:37:03 »
I have wonder why you would want to fit discs onto a Series.  If the drums are in the correct working order then they should be able to lock the wheels at 10mph easily if you stamp on the brake pedal.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2006, 20:38:57 »
Drum Brakes + Water  = poor braking !

I've got a disc brake conversion on one of my Series...  was a TiConsole kit (I must have been feeling flush  back then !)

Makes a world of difference.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2006, 20:47:54 »
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Drum Brakes + Water  = poor braking !

That is why you drive with the brakes on for a short distance after wading.  :wink:
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 20:49:44 »
My 109" has got a Chris Perfect kit on it, previous owner paid for and fitted it  :D
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2006, 20:50:17 »
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That is why you drive with the brakes on for a short distance after wading.  :wink:



...and that's how you destroy your friction material if the water you are in is full of grit ;-)
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2006, 20:52:20 »
...and I thought disc brakes suffer from the same issue as well?
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2006, 20:54:24 »
The water drains off the disc far more quickly than it escapes from a drum, so you don't get the same severity of problem.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not knocking Drums, they have their own advantages.....
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2006, 21:53:28 »
....Although not often when used for a transmission brake  :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2006, 23:56:53 »
I think Rocky Mountain do a kit for about £700. More than I paid for my whole car. if you look after the drum brakes they do a good enough job.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2006, 07:21:01 »
probably a daft question :oops:  but did any ever do a drilled drum to let the water out or something like it ,i wouldn't fit discs cos of the cost but when the drums were full of water the other week scary stuff for the first quarter mile or so
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2006, 08:29:51 »
The water does pour out of the drums instantly, it's the fact that the drum face and the shoes are wet that causes the lack of braking until they dry, thereby increasing the friction again. When I have been off road and through deep muddy water I always rinse the brakes to remove the fine particles of grit from the inside of the drums else they quickly damage the drums.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2006, 08:42:14 »
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it also has defender doors....


I didn't notice :oops:

As I stated, it was the disc conversion that caught my attention (I'd parked opposite, as you do :wink: )

There's definately one member on here who may know who it belongs to & can find out what kit was used, that's; Mick 'Muck' Moses, as he's a stalwart of the YROC
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2006, 08:50:13 »
BTM - I've seen that one. It lives in Horbury Bridge near the school, where the old petrol pumps used to be.

Disc brakes and servos are for girls :D
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2006, 09:19:48 »
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it also has defender doors....


I didn't notice :oops:

As I stated, it was the disc conversion that caught my attention (I'd parked opposite, as you do :wink: )

There's definately one member on here who may know who it belongs to & can find out what kit was used, that's; Mick 'Muck' Moses, as he's a stalwart of the YROC


Err I'm afraid I don't know that vehicle or it's owner.
I do know that Chris Perfect made a conversion kit and I have seen modified RR axels under series (still on leaves)

Discs are far better tha drums.  I have always been able to hold my 90 on a hill even after deepwatre and sludge wading.  I did this in a lightweight and had a real fright after pressing the brake and NOTHING happening.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2006, 09:30:53 »
i got 90 doors, with the liftup handles.
still got the best bit, wind down windows!
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2006, 09:40:16 »
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Err I'm afraid I don't know that vehicle or it's owner.

Sorry Mick.
I just made the (seemingly uneducated :wink: ) guess withit having a YROC badge on the grill



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Discs are far better tha drums.  I have always been able to hold my 90 on a hill even after deepwatre and sludge wading.  I did this in a lightweight and had a real fright after pressing the brake and NOTHING happening.

I know, I once had that happen years ago.
I'd been to the Swales Moor (pay & play) site, now long gone.
If you remember it was oppsite the Starving Rascal pub & near the SkiSlope)
We were coming down 'Shibden Wall' (the cobbled lane down to the Shibden Mill Inn) & my brakes were still wet
Scared?, as they used to say in 'Red Dwarf', it was almost a Brown Alert! :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2006, 10:05:25 »
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BTM - I've seen that one. It lives in Horbury Bridge near the school, where the old petrol pumps used to be.


Mmmm??

I'll have to have a drive out that way, haven't been down there for about a month
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2006, 10:54:42 »
I like the " just drive whilst left foot braking for a while to dry the brakes" you all know that really doesn't do much!
im running parabolics on  mine now and need to fit extended brake lines-Which claim to increase braking power and sensitivity, anyone found that?
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2006, 12:07:27 »
if the extended pipes are stronger and less prone to expanding when you stomp the brakes, then it will feel different
wont make the brakes work better tho
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