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Offline Mr Bump

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« on: November 08, 2006, 22:54:21 »
OK so I was drunk and made a bet...

Which will win in a tug o war?

TD5 110 on 35 12.5 BFG muds or a Chevrolet Blazer 4.3 litre V6?

It'll be in a gravelly car park.  

I figure the 110 has it on weight, and rubber but the Chevy has more bhp and torque.  I reckon if I can hold him for a minute or three the auto clutch will melt lol.

Low second? Difflock?

What do you reckon?

All funds bet are going to the local air ambulance as some baaa*** stole the collection tin off the bar  :evil:
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 23:22:22 »
and the most contentious question is a load of paving slabs and water ballast cheating?
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 08:01:47 »
Make it fair, each vehicle is only allowed 1 gallon of fuel  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:


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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 08:02:49 »
Oh,

a quick question, what boots has the Blazer got ?


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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 09:37:02 »
when is it ? might wander down for that one  :lol:   Hope its not toooo expensive for either party though :?
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 10:47:33 »
Quote from: "burgerman"
when is it ? might wander down for that one  :lol:   Hope its not toooo expensive for either party though :?


Sounds like an event.

Ass end on the blazer might be an issue as no wiehgt in the truck bed. should be a fairly even match but you wont kill his cluth, yours will probobly give out first, remeber, his is liquid cooled, yours isnt :)
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 10:50:42 »
well I'm pretty sure (hoping) he's on road tires.

I like the idea of a limited amount of fuel! ;) :D

If I lose traction and spin the wheels then it could be expensive in terms of stone chips :(
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 10:52:20 »
Quote from: "Seven Stars"
well I'm pretty sure (hoping) he's on road tires.

I like the idea of a limited amount of fuel! ;) :D

If I lose traction and spin the wheels then it could be expensive in terms of stone chips :(

But blazers have slighty stronger axles than landrovers,& you are on oversize tyres
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 11:30:18 »
What do you reckon then? better off on the 235 85 all terrains?
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 12:07:35 »
I would just like to mention a note of caution...

Depending upon what equipment you're using then you'll either end up breaking something,  stood still wrecking tyres or, as i'm a little concerned will be the case is ripping off a recovery point and inserting it in a spectator...
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 12:09:14 »
Hmm, thought I replied.

Technically :

The Chevvy doesnt have the weight in the bed, so the back end will probobly slip and slide. I would say loading it is only fair to equalise weight. Otherwise I think it will be pretty close. Your clutch will give before his, remeber his is liquid cooled, yours isnt.

Saftey Wise:

This could go wrong in so many ways, be careful with bystanders etc and put bales and other soft things either eng. Thats a lot of horses if the rope snaps. Also secure link on something damn solid and make sure nothing is on the trajectory is something tears off ir better still use a synthetic rope that wont recoil.

Its actually quite a daft idea and probobly best to find another way to settle it. Hill climbs maybe at a p&p site?
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2006, 12:36:42 »
Ill bet theres gonna be mechanical carnage, and remembering that Landrover parts are only marginally stronger than their minimum requirements, Id guess its LR/bearmach thats gonna get a call for some spare 1/2 shafts.

Maybe if you weighed up the cost of new 1/2 shafts, and perhaps a diff, then looked at what you will raise for charity, Itd be cheaper to just put the money in yourself.

I recon the blazer'll walk it. :wink:


Just another thought, get MudClub members to have a gamble on the outcome. Not to win anything, but if they guess wrong they have to paypal you the money they risked . ie Id bet a quid the blazer'll win, if the Landy wins(hahaha) Ill paypal you the quid.

Is that legal/permissible?

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2006, 12:44:48 »
How about take the vehicles out of the equasion and each of you get a team together and have a propper tug of war Im sure theres some MC members that would like to help out....
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2006, 12:55:29 »
As long as there is enough space between the spectators and the vehicles you should be ok, however flying parts could be a problem!
It may be an idea to look for a better point rather than a tow point to connect the cable to!

I there any chance you can get some video footage of the result!
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2006, 13:00:36 »
m/c members could always vote/pledge for what landy bit breaks first :lol:    But the more i think about this i must admit im a tad concerned on safety issues, now dont get me wrong im bot a kill joy BUT, prevention is less harmfull than cure,

   And yea why not have a human tug o war??

Hows about 4x4 owners against bobblies  :lol:   ( but i guess that would damage the grass :roll: )
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2006, 13:09:52 »
These kind of challenges usually end up with someones car being damaged.

The safest (& fairest) thing to do is put road tyres on both cars and hold the 'event' on grass (no broken windows or paint chips that way).

Link the two cars with a short length of stout chain (avoid long lengths of wire or rope in case they snap). Make sure the chain is bar tight before 'the off' otherwise you'll end-up ripping the anchor points of each others cars (which could well happen anyway!). Obviously keep spectators out the way and make sure you get it on video for us!

May the strongest car win!
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2006, 13:19:49 »
Oh Andy - what have you got yourself into!!!
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2006, 19:51:20 »
well good luck to both 4x4s and keep us updated!  :D

p.s. when is being held and where if i could ask?  :-k
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 20:20:19 »
well

2x 5 tonne strops in parralel (sp?) were strong enough and despite being on tarmac - a decision based on safety, not my tire advantage! I'm happy to say it was

Land Rover 1  :   Chevy Blazer nil

only lasted 20 seconds and no mechanical damage
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2006, 20:27:58 »
WHAT! You've done it, and i was thinking i had an excuse to come visit and have a drink!
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2006, 20:29:38 »
Good on ya!  =D>  \:D/

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2006, 20:40:40 »
thanks both

smo there's ALWAYS an excuse to come down for a drink mate, pay and play in alton on 3rd december http://www.tv4x4.co.uk/ if you're up for it? apparently it's another wooded site though I'll steer clear of more roof dents  :oops:
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2006, 21:24:08 »
lol nice one andy!

anyone get a video of it??
if not you'll have to have a rematch  :lol:
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2006, 08:53:05 »
Do it on grass and let the grass take the damage, not the vehicles. Also more skill required, not just brute force.
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