why i'm moving

[woody]

friday evening
 sat watching TV
and there is a loud thuding sound coming from outside
i go out front to investigate and a group of youths are seen leaving a garden, 2 doors away.
turns out they had been throwing bricks at the front door of a house that is vacant
an hour later they were back with something larger and louder
went out and told them i had just phoned the police. they all ran off

saturday
whle talking to a neighbour i found out that the police removed 12 drug users from said house previous week

sunday
 well, i took my favourite mag (LRO) and a very large glass of wine upsairs to help me relax while i have a bath.
quietly soaking drinking and reading there is this loud banging
2 adultsare trying to gain access to the house 2 doors away using what sounds like a sledge hammer
wife phones the police but the suspects fail and leave before they arrive

another nieghbour has all the local drug dealers on video (police say the quality is not good enough to prosicute)selling down our back alley
as for the area i moved into this isn't it

it used to be great you knew all the neighbours and were quite frendly
but as people leave the area there housees have been sold and turned into rented property or worse still housing association
now i know less than half a dozen people on the street and the amount of people coming and going thruogh the rental route is unbelievable
so
come March my probationary period at work is up and we are moving

[Yoshi]

I'm sorry to hear about your issues, but i would like to add that there is nothing wrong with housing association or rented accomodation.

I have lived in both and i must say that without it i would be on the street as there is no way in hell i can actually buy a house, so basically saying i am finding your comment about how bad the area is because the houses have been turned in housing association or rented accomodation rather offensive.

[muddyman]

I live in a housing association accomodation, does this make me a bad person too :?:

[Horness]

I think Woody is referring to some of the tenants, not every one in the country.

Like 4x4 owners.  Some are thoughtless countryside vandals, the majority are not.

Don't take it personally.  

Sorry to hear about you woes Woody.  My Mother-in-Law has similar problems, except they are next door.  Drug dealing, s**tting in the entry between the two houses (which both parties use), abuse, broken bottles, loud music etc.  She's on her own at 68, and the Police don't want to know because the Land Lord spends most of his time out of the country.

I don't know why people think they have to behave worse than animals these days.  

Horness

[woody]

I think Woody is referring to some of the tenants, not every one in the country.

Like 4x4 owners.  Some are thoughtless countryside vandals, the majority are not.

Don't take it personally.  

Sorry to hear about you woes Woody.  My Mother-in-Law has similar problems, except they are next door.  Drug dealing, s**tting in the entry between the two houses (which both parties use), abuse, broken bottles, loud music etc.  She's on her own at 68, and the Police don't want to know because the Land Lord spends most of his time out of the country.

I don't know why people think they have to behave worse than animals these days.  

Horness

thanks for putting it better than me 8)
trying not to tar everyone with the same brush :oops:
when your on the front line and nothing is getting done it does seem that everyone in rented property is the problem
when in reality it is the minority causing the problems
but the problems always seem BIG
forgot to mention about the 2 bodies found on thursday in nearby flats
still trying to find out what happened there :?:

[Drift]

Woody I had exacly the same problem when I bought a house in Bootle, it was a great area in 1986 and then the old folks in the street moved to homes ect houses went to rental companies and all hell broke loose.
I ended up selling to one of the said companies just to get out.

Good luck with your move.
Ste

[Bob696]

Same story here tbh. We lived in Handsworth on a nice road full of Sikhs and OAPs. Houses started to get sold and bought. After one incedent in particular we moved. Kept the house and rented it to a single dad with 5 unruley kids to get our own back. He/they burnt it down eventualy and we got a complete rebuild off the insurance. Doubled the value so we sold it to a rental company.

[woody]

just an update this week
the house 2 doors away has been broken into again
they managed to remove the boards from one of the windows to gain entry
next door has had there out house broken into
just love this place ](*,)

[Star]

We were starting to think we were the only ones unlucky enough to have 'not so pleasant' neighbours,  it's horrible not wanting to come home after a days laning or a weekend away but thanks to our 'locals' thats how we are starting to feel.

Sadly, we can't move just yet as I need to finish my training and get a job to enable us to move to somewhere we do want to be, but for now I get by by 'pretending' we live in a detatched house in the middle of nowhere, odd but it kind of works  :)

Good luck to everyone who is living in a place they would rather not be.

[woody]

We were starting to think we were the only ones unlucky enough to have 'not so pleasant' neighbours,  it's horrible not wanting to come home after a days laning or a weekend away but thanks to our 'locals' thats how we are starting to feel.

Sadly, we can't move just yet as I need to finish my training and get a job to enable us to move to somewhere we do want to be, but for now I get by by 'pretending' we live in a detatched house in the middle of nowhere, odd but it kind of works  :)

Good luck to everyone who is living in a place they would rather not be.

most of the neighbours are nice and friendly
its the element that seems to be moving into the area thats the problem
when putting the rubish out you find needles empty bottles and cans as well as rubish dumped and this is where i fix my car and childen should be playing.

[missroadrage]

I too live in a housing association flat - not really by choice but necessity. I didn't take offense as the people in the flat below me are known for drugs so can appreciate what woody is saying.

Hope you get it sorted or are able to move somewhere that stays 'nice'. That applies to all the above who have found themselves in an area that is going downhill  :D

[chris.hunt22]

 Know what u mean Woody, you will know the town I live in and it used to be very quiet and somewhere Sunday drivers used to flock to, nights are terrible, kids about 13-16 year olds hangin around, suppin cans and bottles, taking god knows what and hurling obscenities at whoever walks past, to be fair the uproar caused in the local rag has made the police calm it down a lot but they are now habiting our local parks where our dogs walk and kids play....Its all just a sign of the times I think!!!

[Range Rover Red]

It's not the rental element, it's the usual minority that gets everyone else branded the same.  Where my dad used to live, the family that BOUGHT the house had a wild party, to which all the neighbours were invited - but I don't think many went - and ended up with the teenage daughters running about in the middle of the road, drunk, either topless or stark naked!

It's really not nice having horrible neighbours - I had problems myself when I first moved in, again with home owners.  Everyone else on our road is great and the level of street crime is absolutely minimal.  

Good luck with the move.

[bigfatsi]

Another sympathiser here.

I bought a brand new house on a nice estate and everything was great, however house prices went up and the neighbours moved and rented our their houses. Both houses ended up being lived in by people who were, basically, scum. Screaming kids and parents. Chav parties with drugs (and screaming kids at the same time) Loud music, litter, leering and threats. A neighbour caught their friends jumping up and down on my MGB at 2 in the morning and they also fag burned our new decking the first night it was down. Numerous scratches on the cars including a hit and run (luckily I saw them and got some money back by threatening police action) etc etc. I may sound a little 'snobby' but I paid good money to live away from that kind of behaviour. It's unfortunate for the vast majority of renters/tenants that they should get labelled in such a negative way (I used to rent and consider myself a decent guy) but it does feel as though rentals open the door to these sorts of issues. Maybe it's because they can get out so easily as opposed to the expense of moving or maybe it's to do with pride in ownership? Who knows?

Anyway, Woody - I agree entirely. Move and get out. I did. And when the scum move in again keep moving. Me? I'll keep working and saving and I'll get off this godforsaken island as soon as you can!

Simon.

[Boggert]

Being an Ex Housing officer for a housing association and I have worked in the private rental market as a Maintenance Surveyor, before joining the plod I think I know what woody is trying to say.

Its not that anyone who rents is bad, because thats just not true, I met some lovely people in HA property, some have become friends after i left. Some private rentals, expecially cheap property attracts people who have been evicted from council or HA property. The problem is once an area is on the way down with out knocking it down, its real hard to to get it back up.

I remember renting a house for a client, the tennant was a nightmare paid the rent but caused loads of problems in the street, kids out of control, noise, damage you name it.
Anyway we evicted her eventually and the client sold the house back to the council she purchased it off.
They then re housed the woman we evicted from it!  :shock: Bloody council had no feelings for the rest of the street. I spoke to the Housing Officer who said "well we deal with that if it happens again"  :shock:  :shock:


Woody find an old farm cottage in the middle of no where, best of luck mate.

[woody]

thanks boggert
new family just moved in next door (rental)
mother 3 teenage lads and grandkids around at weekends :shock:  :shock:
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absolutly great family friendly, polite even brought a xmas pressie round for liitle un
you cant always judge people
but cant waite to move

[freeagent]

we live in a terrace, in northfleet, kent... we own our house but next door is rented out, when we found out who the new tennants were last year we were dreading it... 4 Polish HGV drivers. but, they turned out to be the perfect neighbours, they are quiet, polite, always help my other half to carry stuff in from the car if i'm not about, they're realy nice lads and i wouldn't swap them for anyone.

whereas.... the neighbours where i lived before, (we were renting and the 'family' next door owned their house) were absolute scum, fighting at night, dog-crap everywhere, beer bottles in the front garden, we finally moved after they kept us awake fighting all night, and we decided if we didn't go, we (my brother and i) were likely to get ourselves into big trouble as we got very close to sorting him out.

you get pot luck with neighbours, and often the only way out is to move...
trouble is, you could spend 500 grand on a big posh house somewhere nice, and have some snooty git next door who complained everytime you broke wind...

[muddyjames]

Well the noisey neighbours next door to me seem to have packed up and gone. I will rephrase that to just gone. Neighbour said they sww them getting into a taxi on xmas eve and not seen / heard of them since. dont seem to have packed anything up or out. It is lovley to not hear music banging away at 3am!

My area is lovely and crime is low too. I left my car unlocked when on hols last week and it wasnt touched luckily. I could have sworn I locked it but obviously not! Lucky my road isnice. not even 5 mins round the corner though the boy racers like to play.

[Jake]

I know the feeling Woody
We live on a council estate an i hate it
Gangs of nasty yoofs hanging about, causing trouble.
That'll be one of the big reasons i'm off to Devon.
Good luck with whatever pans out for you buddy
 :)

[muddyjames]

When are you off to Devon then Jake? your area didnt seem that bad when I saw big blue at your house that time.

[Jake]

When are you off to Devon then Jake? your area didnt seem that bad when I saw big blue at your house that time.

The natives where all out hunting (or stealing) at the time  :lol:

I leave home on Sunday.
I stop over in Dorset for the evening at Muddyweb towers.
Then, off to Devon on Monday morning.
 :D

[muddyjames]

Is it just you leaving home then or is it a massive family move? Try out the bristol off road course. You will need mega mud plugging tyres though if your hoping to do anything more useful than getting stuck and sliding sideways down hills!!

[marjan]

I work for a housing association as a Gas Fitter and some of the people I meet are downright offensive but the majority are really nice people who look after the houses as if they were their own.

It doesn't seem to matter where you live these days, you will always get some little sh*tbag playing music too loud and driving like a lunatic. I live on a new private estate and we still get problems occasionally with idots causing nuisance and grief.

[Boggert]

It doesn't seem to matter where you live these days, you will always get some little sh*tbag playing music too loud and driving like a lunatic. I live on a new private estate and we still get problems occasionally with idots causing nuisance and grief.

Too right... The house next to mine was up for sale for £595,000 however the family who own it have a 15 year old lad who is playing music all night, comes home drunk and rides his Motor bile down the road...
However he ia a nice enough lad to talk to, they just don't try to control him, and thats the problem!

[woody]

well saturday evening heard a noise in the ally and there are two youths
smoking via a bottle
now i am not an expert but most people i know use cigarettes not bottles !!!!
i assume that its some form of drug use (bong ???)
so i phoned the police, especially as one is about 12years old
well i'm still waiting for them to arrive :shock:  :shock: