Warn Winches

[Mudlark]

On the M8000 winch can a 24v motor be exchanged for a 12v?

How would I know if this has been done already?

As the 12v motor draws twice the current of the 24v is it the same motor?


Thanks for any help

[Xtremeteam]

it will say on the label what votage it is,& also the wmots e intercangeale with some other makes

[Mudlark]

Sorry I guess I didn't give enough info for the answers :roll:

Should have said the label on the clutch shows it being a M8000 - 24volt

The label on the motor is unreadable

The reason I'm asking is that it does run on a 12volt battery and was just wondering if someone had already changed the motor

Any ideas on the price of a motor as well?

[extreme90]

the 12v are usualy double the power of the 24 v
i would say the m8 is possably a 4.6 12v and 2.6hp 24v but dont hold me to that as i aint 100% sure
also if you want to convert ull need to change the solenoids
so what is i you want do ?
go 12v or 24 ?
most people are on 12v as it saves faffing around changing things over to 24 or fitting a second 24v alt
motors are all now splines so are interchangable within reason  :roll:
but a m8 isnt gonna agree to fitting a 6hpxp motor some how  :lol:  :roll:
as its only rated to 8000lbs no more( well apart from stall load  :roll: )
danny

[extreme90]

doh 2 slow  :lol:
it will run on a 12v battery just awfuly slow  :roll:
try looking at the solenoids as they should have either 12 or 24v stamped on them
danny

[Mudlark]

Right the other thing is  :roll: I stripped it down before testing it so am only relying on the speed from the guy I bought it off as to the speed and he said it was slow - so perhaps it is 24 volt I obviously want to go 12 volt, I can get a motor from the states for a initial price of $140 + shipping + duty I suppose what is it likely to cost me here?


BTW I didn't know it was a Warn until today :shock:

solenoids will probably work 12 or 24 I should think with just a little skip if any?

Anyway I can't see any voltage stamped on them - going to have to get it stripped properly and stop acting like a kid who's Christmas has come early  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[extreme90]

no the solenoids wont like it, ull need to replace to 12v solenoids as for the motor
a 4.6 comeup/ superwinch should fit
or a 4.6 8274 motor
1st of all tho
take the motor off and post a picture up on here along with the mating face to the drum support dimensions as i can dodge down the yard and measure my 4.6 comeup and the 5.6 bowmotor aswel  :lol:
danny

[Mudlark]

Right I've lifted a pic off of ebay - below

It fits the following:

XD9000, XD90001, MX8000, M8000, MX6085 & SUPERWINCH X9

 

IT WILL REPLACE THE FOLLOWING NUMBERS:

 

PRESTOLITE MOTORS MRVB4/-VB5/-VB7, WARN WINCH #16543, 18184, 25981, & 26626

 

ALSO 9130450047, 7536, 15747, 15877, 16548, 160799, 25314, 25981, 25982, 17102, 18184, 226626, 26629, D2000, M1900, 458058, 11212449, 7682, AMJ4635, W-7923, W-8023

 

OS # 43020018N


Will do a pic of mine tomorrow

[winchman]

Two identical motors one 12 v one 24 volt. the 12 volt will draw twice the current of the 24 volt when producing the same torque, its a science and laws of physics thing.
www.winchrepairs.co.uk
new 12 v motors start at £100, might have some second hand though
Change the solenoids, I know they will work but not at there best.
I have converted a few 8274s to 12 volt as I had a few 24 volt ones from lorries.

[extreme90]

rite, options.....
that is am sure a 2.6hp
now you can fit a comeup 4.6hp motor 160+ the dredded from pg winches
or a 5.6hp bowmotor from david bowyer for 155+vat
however i really do not suggest the latter  :lol:  is isnt practical apart from huskeys and 8274's  :roll:
id get a 4.6 if was me
and its also alot cheaper than the warn motor and prestolite  :shock:
danny

[extreme90]

https://sslrelay.com/www.pgwinches.co.uk/sess/utn;jsessionid=15458079a89ebb6/shopdata/index.shopscript

[winchman]

I second that, 4.6 Come up, cheap & bits are readily available

[extreme90]

anything happens to it throw it in bin and get another  :lol:
the amount of times ive seriously killed mine , i good old clean up in the lathe and off she goes to live another day  :shock:
its unreal
they really are damn good motors
just testing the bowmotor now, see how good they are  :lol:
danny

[Mudlark]

, i good old clean up in the lathe and off she goes to live another day  :shock:
its unreal
they really are damn good motors
just testing the bowmotor now, see how good they are  :lol:
danny

Lathe? does the expense never stop? :lol:  :lol:

Thanks for your info gents given me enough food for thought, bit of luck by the time I get the plate made and fitted I shall have a motor to fit it

[extreme90]

if your reall desperate ive got a old 2.6hp 8274 motor hear doing nuffink, but ya best really get a new un
a nice 4.6hp and a albright seald contactor, and all your wishes come true at once  :lol:
however, since the pajeros are that good  :lol:  you shouldnt need a winch  :lol:
runing..............gone....................... :lol:
danny

[Mudlark]

if your reall desperate ive got a old 2.6hp 8274 motor hear doing nuffink, but ya best really get a new un
a nice 4.6hp and a albright seald contactor, and all your wishes come true at once  :lol:
however, since the pajeros are that good  :lol:  you shouldnt need a winch  :lol:
runing..............gone....................... :lol:
danny

It's just for when I do eventually get it stuck - still trying hard

[Mudlark]

Well good news and bad news today

Good news Warn use 12v solenoids on both 12 and 24 volt winches but wire them in parallel for 12 and series for 24 £100 saving  :lol:  :lol:

No further ahead with the motor though as warn say they have a plate riveted to the motor to say what its voltage is They don't say about when this plate (or sticker in my case) has been worn away by the mounting bolts of the solenoid box :roll:  :roll:

However I can import a motor for half the price of getting one in this country so that sounds like good news as well :lol:

[extreme90]

why arse around inporting, to only get it hear and the armeture and windeings are f***** cos its been throw around in carrage
stop p*****g around and just get one from this country quicker and easier
get the 4.6 comeup and you wont have any trouble again
as matter of fact ive just apgraded on me huskey to one  
it goes like the clappers  :shock:
danny