vitaras alternator

[spoofer2888]

where can i get a better alternator for the vit mine strugles running my winch no i have one of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem...amp;rd=1&rd=1
ill need a bigger/better alternator can i just get one off another car if so wot i also plan on running twin battereys

[Damon]

I'd be surprised if you can get an alternator to pump out enough amps to run your winch.  My Warn M6000's use 85 amps under "no load" just winding in the cable.

I would fit a 2nd battery (if you haven't already).  I use an Optima Yellow Top with 690 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps).  It's an awesome piece of kit. :)

Check your winch spec. it should recommend a minimum battery ampage.

[Evilgoat]

I'd be surprised if you can get an alternator to pump out enough amps to run your winch.  My Warn M6000's use 85 amps under "no load" just winding in the cable.

I would fit a 2nd battery (if you haven't already).  I use an Optima Yellow Top with 690 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps).  It's an awesome piece of kit. :)

Check your winch spec. it should recommend a minimum battery ampage.

1.6cfi alternator is a 70A unit and will drop in place of a 40A standard one.

A winch under no load should use no moe than a few amps, certainly not 85A. If yours is drawing that much offload you have a problem :)

[Damon]

A winch under no load should use no moe than a few amps, certainly not 85A. If yours is drawing that much offload you have a problem :)

Hmm, strange.  I must have read the Warn spec. incorrectly then?

Scroll to the bottom of the page for the spec.

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/m6000sdp_multimount.shtml

[Evilgoat]

A winch under no load should use no moe than a few amps, certainly not 85A. If yours is drawing that much offload you have a problem :)

Hmm, strange.  I must have read the Warn spec. incorrectly then?

Scroll to the bottom of the page for the spec.

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/m6000sdp_multimount.shtml

Thats what it says. Still dont beleive it though, meter yours out, I'd be surprised it if using that much off load. Someone that knows more about these things should be able to say yay or nay but the 1500lb boat winches drew about 5A offload.

[Damon]

I'm not an electrical wiz but I must admit I was surprised regarding the 85amp draw on 'no load' too :)

It might have something to do with the 4.8 hp motor on the winch.  Who knows? :)

I have to admit that with 2 batteries (one normal Vitara battery plus an extra 'heavy duty' battery) the winch performed "OK", but when I fitted the Optima the winch performance was massively improved :) :) :)

More info on the 1.6cfi alternator would be good, please :)  Which vehicle, year etc

Cheers :)

[Evilgoat]

Well given I nuked mine its out of the Rabbit at the moment :) I'll se about pics, part numbers etc. Came out of a K reg SWB and spotted an identical unit in an L reg LWB CFi on Sat too.

Check the brushes and bearing before you fit it though :) The 70A Ate its bearings after just 3 months and the brushes on the original 40A: What brushes?

[markyb]

you can get a 55amp vit alternator comes on the single point injection models i believe as you say the 45amper are not great but do the job.
the 55amp have external fan and the brushes are 2 screws to remove and clean. great alternators dont mind the wet stuff

i reckon that warn spec is about right , if i recall the 5.6bhp can pull 100 under load.

how have you got your batteries connected? just thought the little one might be trying to become the big one or vice versu

[Damon]

you can get a 55amp vit alternator comes on the single point injection models i believe as you say the 45amper are not great but do the job.
the 55amp have external fan and the brushes are 2 screws to remove and clean. great alternators dont mind the wet stuff

i reckon that warn spec is about right , if i recall the 5.6bhp can pull 100 under load.

how have you got your batteries connected? just thought the little one might be trying to become the big one or vice versu

My alternator is 50amp with the external fan, the batteries are connected in parallel, the negative on the Optima is 'switched' to earth so it's out of the system until I need it :)

[Mutz]

Have you thought about fitting a Pajero alternator as they are designed to charge 2 batteries and are rated ( I believe ) at around the 85amp mark.
But they arent cheap. HTH.

[generation-x]

if you dont have power steering why not just fit twin alternators?
standard one to run the usuall and the second were the power steering pump wud be to power a seperate battery for your winch??

simon

[spoofer2888]

that sounds like a good but ive got power steering so wouldnt wont on mine but ive put a new battery on and cleaned the aot and it seems to be working fine fot now but ive only used the winch once for a sort time so didnt realy use much power but only time will tell

[Damon]

Have you thought about fitting a Pajero alternator as they are designed to charge 2 batteries and are rated ( I believe ) at around the 85amp mark.
But they arent cheap. HTH.

Are these a direct swap or are mods required?  :)

[Mutz]

Not having taken mine off and not knowing much about Zuk's i couldnt tell you.
But obviously would be a benificial conversion.

[jeepmadmike]

I would not be suprised at all if a winch is using 85A at no load they use series wound motors which are great for producing huge torgue but use current to match, my vitara runs a 70A bosch alternator one i found laying around. i used to run front and rear winches and never had charge issues even when either or both had been working hard. i run a since gel battery which i think is a 90Ah