vm rangie???

[cluffy]

Hi guys
 Ive just brought a vm rangie cost me 300 sheets mot no tax an old d plater, now looking on the site ive found a few remarks saying thay are unreliable??? is this ture???
 If so wat you reconend i do?? sell it on quick or keep it?
 Im new to 4x4ing never own a 4x4 bfor pls guys i need your help.

[Yoshi]

Sell it on quick, its a lovely engine to drive but they were renowned for having head gasket issues.  On a D-reg would mean its a 2.4VM and they are the worst, options are:

If body and chassis are spot on then buy a discovery 200tdi engine and box and bang them in.

Sell it and pray someone else buys it

Use it til it dies, then break the motor for spares!

[bezzabsa]

or the other school of thought is - if its made it this far its a good 'un!!

[Guardian.]

they are not the best choice of engine, but if it goes o.k. for 300 quid just run it till it dies.

[Skibum346]

Sounds like a cheap years motoring to me...

Also... changing a head gasket on a diesel aint that big a chore is it... at least you only have one and not two to change!   :lol:

Good luck and welcom to our world!

Skibum

[cluffy]

well thanks guys, realy do appreate the help being new too it all.
Well my thought was to get heads dun plus silly bits like exhaust gaskets may aswel do em all. an see how it goes from their.
 :roll:

[Yoshi]

Sounds like a cheap years motoring to me...

Also... changing a head gasket on a diesel aint that big a chore is it... at least you only have one and not two to change!  

Good luck and welcom to our world!

Skibum

For future information a VM diesel has 4 heads :D

[Range Rover Blues]

And are qyuite easy to change from what I'm told.  For £300 that's a lot of motor, run it 'till it dies, it's worth a fair bit as a breaker or buy another VM engine to replace it, good ones can be had second hand for the price of a bag of chips.

[Skibum346]

Sounds like a cheap years motoring to me...

Also... changing a head gasket on a diesel aint that big a chore is it... at least you only have one and not two to change!  

Good luck and welcom to our world!

Skibum

For future information a VM diesel has 4 heads :D

 :oops:  :oops: :oops:

[cluffy]

Ok cool well i pick it up tomorrow think ill get on an order the gaskets now least i can start to get the ball rolling. I thought it was a cheep mota for 300 sheets ok its not show room condition but what more do you expect from an old d plater.!!

[bezzabsa]

dont forget to post pix ;)

[cluffy]

Well ill have to give it a clean up ie polish dont want to be shown up by sum of the trucks on hear.  :oops: dont forget its only an oldie

[simdeb]

well i got to say our vm is reliable  very econimacal and makes fun of all you lot for saying they are c***  she's a j reg and she's purrfect!!!

debbie
p's put £40 went to newark about 40 miles away towing caravan there laned for 2 days and came back towing caravan forgot went into newark twice and still plenty of diesel in her it was on light when we put the £40 in

[simdeb]

then again we are talking abouth the make of vehciles (landrovers) that have a personality all of their own no 2 are the same!!!

[Yoshi]

Precisely, ours was spot on til it went!  Ours was the same incarnation as yours would be!

[waveydavey]

If it has four heads does it have 4 head gasgets? Some engines have a single plate for the lot.

If it is four it's all the easier. you can do one at a time, finish that and use the motor again until you have chance for the next. Not only that but by the time you get to number 4 you fly through as you know waht to do and have the tools ready.

[Yoshi]

It has 4 seperate gaskets.  But if your doing one you may as well do em all as to get to any 1 head you still have to remove the 4 point exhaust from the engine to get in there :D

[bezzabsa]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALFA-JEEP-CHEROKEE-2-4TD-2-5TD-VM-HEAD-GASKET-SET_W0QQitemZ110073797422QQihZ001QQcategoryZ9946QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[cluffy]

For 40 sheets its not worth messing aroung umming and rring weather to get it or not. Wat a barging. What ekce can u buy now a days for 40 quid!!

[iluvmud]

:lol: Wow someone else with a 2.4 vm !!! Thought i was the only one.

Bought ours just over a year ago and its been great. Only problem ive found is obtaining parts for the engine they can be hard to find or get the correct part (ive even given chassis no. and come back with the wrong part )

We got prettty decent milage out of it (nearly 30mpg) until we put bigger mts on it and a 2" lift  :(

The main critism on them was the turbo lag it doesnt kick in straight away so bit slow on the uptake but once going it can shift,

But so far so good and sounds a bargain for 300 !!!! Enjoy!! :lol:

[simdeb]

our runs very well feel very safe in her tows caravan like a dream simon put the same lift and tyres on her and it hasn't changed a thing speedo is exact but on disco it was way out? must agree the turbo does kick in a bit later but we have no smoke whatsoever when we had her some one put the wrong fuses in her she blew one and that was scary i thought she was going up in flames    the wiring loom to the windows (elec) had shall we say BURNT  i left the front heated screen on all day and yes it did flaten the battery! :oops:  i didn't know it didn't switch off when youturned the engine off (done for posh folks to deice their window and still lock the car!! :oops:  :oops: )

you know what they say your never too old to learn

Debbie

[Yoshi]

VM engine parts available from CTH Range Rovers in Crawley W.Sussex, usually you can find his advert in the classifieds section in LRM, his advert is in yellow.

[clbarclay]

The only drastic problem we have encountered (on our 3rd VM in 2 RRC) is with over heating.
If you warp the cylinder heads beyond skimming then the engine is pretty much a right off as new cylinder heads are around £250 each :shock: .


To cook a VM though involved firstly a blocked radiator thanks to a void between the main and aircon radiators being cock full with leaves after 12 years. This was followed by towing modile grain driers up hill and down dale on hot days. The final nail in the coffin was turning the engine off to put more water in via the radiator the moment we came to a stop in a services.


The current engine has servived potential over heating. driving back from wales with a totaly blocked radiator and no temp guage, the first I knew about it was the low water level light. Avoiding the mistake of last time I let the engine idal for some time before removing the pressure cap to fill up and left the engine running all the time. (learning from my fathers mistakes)



The turbo lag can be a pain and the low end torque could do with improving, come to thing of it the vibration a idal is not good, but apart for than the VM gives little cause for conceren.

[Skibum346]

The only drastic problem we have encountered (on our 3rd VM in 2 RRC) is with over heating.
If you warp the cylinder heads beyond skimming then the engine is pretty much a right off as new cylinder heads are around £250 each :shock: .


To cook a VM though involved firstly a blocked radiator thanks to a void between the main and aircon radiators being cock full with leaves after 12 years. This was followed by towing modile grain driers up hill and down dale on hot days. The final nail in the coffin was turning the engine off to put more water in via the radiator the moment we came to a stop in a services.


The current engine has servived potential over heating. driving back from wales with a totaly blocked radiator and no temp guage, the first I knew about it was the low water level light. Avoiding the mistake of last time I let the engine idal for some time before removing the pressure cap to fill up and left the engine running all the time. (learning from my fathers mistakes)



The turbo lag can be a pain and the low end torque could do with improving, come to thing of it the vibration a idal is not good, but apart for than the VM gives little cause for conceren.

"apart from that"     :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh): :(biglaugh):

[clbarclay]

Well its better than an TD i've come across*, and the last term 2 of the people with TDIs had head gaskets failure, so in comparion the VM isn't doing to baldy if you treat it right.


*to be fair the last TD did go waiding in mud without the plugs in.

[Range Rover Blues]

The seperate cylinder heads have distinct advantages though, mostly that you can choose the correct gasket for each cylinder thus keeping the compression correct rather than a compramise and yet you can work on each one seperately.  With the price of second hand VM engine I wouldn't worry even if the cost of a head is £250, a 200/300TDi will cost that much and they are prone to cracking too aren't they?

[cluffy]

Well thanks to you all for youre hints an tips but the rangie fell thro story of my life. Since tho i have brought a H plate disco 200tdi tax mot with 2"lift kit modula rims and collway mts winch bumper saffari snorkel steering gaurd cb and a rew other bits for 700 sheets.

  many thanks guys

regards     cluffy.