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« on: January 30, 2007, 22:49:27 »
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 22:52:04 »
Dad asked me if i had any liyng round the other day :) he decided to get the server up and running gain.... belive he found them in tesco
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 22:52:05 »
floppy disks are [!Expletive Deleted!] useless anyway! unreliable crap useless bloody plastic square bits of crap!!!!!!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 22:52:15 »
You think...  :wink:

They're still common at College in my ICT course!  :shock:  :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 22:53:33 »
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You think...  :wink:

They're still common at College in my ICT course!  :shock:  :lol:


what is it? national diploma in caveman?
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 23:19:23 »
Scenario...

You need to create a driver disk containing about 1Mb of data to get another PC working properly.

Do you:
a) Use a single 1.44Mb floppy disk
b) Use a 650 or 700Mb CDR
c) Use a memory stick

Option c will lead to the stick being wiped for using for another purpose as soon as it is done with.

Options a and b have the benefit of you having them ready to hand if you need them again (i.e. the next time windross crashes).

IMO, b is a waste of a good CDR. I know that some file systems operate on a "Most Wastage" principle (a bit like all of America), but that is ridiculous.

Just my "2p worth"...
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 23:20:51 »
:lol: You really don't want to see some of the equipment we're using, Liam.  :wink: For example, have you ever seen let alone used a 512k (yes, Kilobyte!) hard drive that's twice the height and the same length of a CD/DVD drive?

Not everyone is completely up to date with technology.  How many shops do you see using the latest of computer tills like Supermarkets?  Not an awful lot.  So we have to be trained to cover a huge range of age and types of equipment and be able to keep them working.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 23:31:05 »
Floppies are useful for making a model of the Starship Enterprise.  :D
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 23:45:48 »
We are still maintaining for the RAF, equipment which is over twenty years old  :shock: , and they have guaranteed the maintainance until 2009
the floppy disk unit's on these are nearly as big as a modern day pc  :lol:
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 00:29:31 »
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:lol: You really don't want to see some of the equipment we're using, Liam.  :wink: For example, have you ever seen let alone used a 512k (yes, Kilobyte!) hard drive that's twice the height and the same length of a CD/DVD drive?

Not everyone is completely up to date with technology.  How many shops do you see using the latest of computer tills like Supermarkets?  Not an awful lot.  So we have to be trained to cover a huge range of age and types of equipment and be able to keep them working.


i've used (and owned!) smaller systems than that before ;) you cant justify an every day computer course using stuff like that though.. theres no need for it
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 09:07:29 »
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You think...  :wink:

They're still common at College in my ICT course!  :shock:  :lol:


We have over 600 PCs at school including laptops and I think there is ONE with a floppy drive in it and thats in the technicians room for use with setting up old software. All the laptops have a floppy drive as well come to think of it but you can have the floppy or a dvd drive in so the floppy drives are in a pocket of the case some where.

3 desktops at home and not one with a floppy drive and not had one for 18months or so. I do have have a couple of 12 inch floppy disks knocking around somewhere I use as a teaching aid once a year.

CDRs Vs Floppy. Given the price (10p CDR, 14p DVD and 16p Floppy) I have no problem with adopting a 'disposable society' attitude  :oops:
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2007, 10:17:48 »
Also, you can't accidentally wipe a CDR by leaving it near something magnetic (speakers etc) so that when you need it, the disc is completely useless.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2007, 10:22:35 »
well, we still have a few machines running them at school too.
i must say i love the things. i think they are great little pieces of plastic.
i may sound old fashioned, but i do think they are very useful, and i like em.

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 11:18:40 »
Floppies are the easiest way of moving small files temporarilly between two machines and are the ONLY way to get RAID drivers into XP during an install. Also if you have older PCs about theres a risk you cant boot from CD and only really recent machines will boot from memory stick and its an arse to do :)

As for old hard drive

*remebers fondly the DEC RL02 10Mb removable hard drives. 19" rack mountable, 6U and cleaning the heads with a toothbrush. Marginally faster than floppy*

Ans then there was the 20Mb 19" full height rack we pulled arat where the whole thing was the hard drive. Then 3 hours later had to use the truck to remove the head magnet from the fork lift, then 5 mins later had to bolt the bumper back on the truck. When we moved out we left it stuck to a wall having latched onto the girder behind it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 14:59:37 »
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floppy disks are !Expletive Deleted! useless anyway! unreliable crap useless bloody plastic square bits of crap!!!!!!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


They're not any good for scrapping the frost off your windscreen either  :x  at least cassete tapes came in a useful box  :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2007, 16:10:11 »
I once was the proud owner of an Amstad with 2, yes 2!, 5.25" floppy drives and no hard drive at all!!


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:lol: You really don't want to see some of the equipment we're using, Liam.  :wink: For example, have you ever seen let alone used a 512k (yes, Kilobyte!) hard drive that's twice the height and the same length of a CD/DVD drive?


When I started at Lotus, the CAD system used floor standing hard drives. They were something like 512k if I remember correctly and they stood to the underside of the desk  :shock: In fact, after they became obsolete I remember 2 of them actually being used to hold up a desk top  :lol:

And the OS was Pascal.... anyone remember that?

When we upgraded to a single desk top server of 1Mb it was amazing!! And this was running 9 workstations  :shock: And we moved to Unix. An excellent OS. Light, fast and frill free. None of your over rated, over complicated, processor killing MS products to be seen.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2007, 16:46:40 »
Hi

that model of the starship enterprise - nearly fell off chair at that one - must try that........now where can i buy some floppies

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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2007, 18:25:00 »
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I once was the proud owner of an Amstad with 2, yes 2!, 5.25" floppy drives and no hard drive at all!!


i had 3 BBC micro B's ;) had two external floppy drives for them too :P even had the original "elite" to play on them :D
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2007, 19:10:41 »
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And the OS was Pascal.... anyone remember that?



I used to do some programming in the mid/late 1980's.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2007, 19:51:01 »
used to work on a DEC PDP11/44 used to fill a small room...and that was 1982 :O
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2007, 23:24:49 »
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When we moved out we left it stuck to a wall having latched onto the girder behind it.

I bet the people who moved in afterwards were cursing you for some time. And the people who tried to move it using hammers and/or crowbars...
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2007, 16:58:05 »
I'vce still got a couple of 5 1/4" drives kicking about :shock:
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2007, 17:14:36 »
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Scenario...

You need to create a driver disk containing about 1Mb of data to get another PC working properly.

Do you:
a) Use a single 1.44Mb floppy disk
b) Use a 650 or 700Mb CDR
c) Use a memory stick


Option a: try to find a floppy disk. Put in drive. Find disk doesn't work in drive. Find another disk. Format it. (2 minutes). Copy files onto it. Put disk in other computer. Find it doesn't work. Repeat. Finally get data copied 10 mins later. Put disk aside. 3 months later: try to use disk again. Find it has errors. Throw it away.

I'll use the memory stick thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2007, 17:18:11 »
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I once was the proud owner of an Amstad with 2, yes 2!, 5.25" floppy drives and no hard drive at all!!


i had 3 BBC micro B's ;) had two external floppy drives for them too :P even had the original "elite" to play on them :D


That reminds me, my colleague here at work still has a BBC model B  :lol:
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