Rear lights and brake lights

[gords]

I've seen a discussion about this somewhere, but I can't find it - so I'll start it again

My Discovery 300 1994 has lights in the bumper and brake lights in the body cluster. The bumper lights are not what I'd call "significant"!

I've seen others with lights in the body cluster as well as the bumper - is this a mod I can (easily) make?

Is it possible to have lights and brake lights in the bumper and the body cluster?

[Bush Tucker Man]

YES!

The body cluster part numbers are;
AMR 5150
AMR 5151
They include all 'services'; Brake, Tail, Indicator, Fog, Reverse. Priced at about £28.00 each
That's unless you can find a Maestro van in a scrapyard & get the units off it (though I assume most scrappers will have been picked clean - or te owners know what the score is)

If you tow, you'll need a new indicator relay; AMR 4873 at a bout £23.00

The light units simply exchange by unscrewing the plastic nuts & swapping the multi-plugs.
Hopefully (but not definately) the extra feeds forthe indicators & tail-lights should be there at the multi-plug, if not you need to run spurs from the feed to the bumper lights

If it's a 7-seater remove the top mounts (Torx 30, or35) to make it a damn site easier

I think 'Andy' (Shiney Blue Crew #1) has done the bumper brake lights, so he might help you there

[gords]

The body cluster part numbers are;
AMR 5150
AMR 5151

So, what are these parts actually for?

[gords]

So, what are these parts actually for?

Ah, who cares! Ordered today, arriving Saturday morning, fitting Saturday afternoon :D

The Land Rover parts guy knew what I was on about immediately!

[Andy.]

Hi Gordon.

Although I have a 200 series I have fitted a 300 series rear bumper to mine. I have also converted the normal tail lights to stop(brake)/tail lights.

The parts are actually taken from the Freelander. Part No you'll need are  part no XBP100190 which are the new dual bulb holders and part no. STC 4637 which is the wiring loom section you'll need to wire up the ne bulbs.

The bulb holders are easy to change as they are a direct replacement for the ones you have in now. Next step is to cut off the old wiring connections at a suitable point, these should just have two wires to them a red and black. The new looms will have three, red, black and the new green wire. Re connect the red and black wires up again to the existing loom. The green wire then has to be taken up to the rear light cluster in the body and connected to the green/purple brake wire feed from there.

Very easy mod todo and gives you those extra two brake lights.

More info and some pics can be found here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stage1v8/TechnicalLighting.htm

HTH.

[Bush Tucker Man]

YES!

The body cluster part numbers are;
AMR 5150
AMR 5151
They include all 'services'; Brake, Tail, Indicator, Fog, Reverse. Priced at about £28.00 each

I would have thought that stating that they include indicators,tail, brake, fog & reverse would have meant that I was giving you the part number for the replacement body lighting clusters that you'll need to order   :roll:
(but you've already done so)

[ChrisW]

You may need to mod the plugs to the body lights to get the extra indicators and side lights to work. I've done it on mine but can't for the life of me remember which wires you need to tap into while I'm sitting in front of the pc! That and its a pita to get to the lights with the extra seats in there!!

If you get down underneath the bumper you can unplug the lights in the bumper and have a look at the cable colours - if these colours aren't already present in the multiplug going to the body lights you'll need to find the cables that run down past the body lights (anyway) and 'tap' into them to provide feeds to your new body lights.
One other problem is that the multiplug may not have the plugs in place to connect to the light cluster - I did mine with a bit of a fiddle with some small spade connectors.

Personally I think this arrangement of 2 side lights and 2 indicators each side gives a much better indication of the size of the car that people are following - the two little lights in the bumper are just too small when following one in the dark  :shock:

[ChrisW]

and please use a proper connector rather than one of those scotchlock things    euuugh!

[Bush Tucker Man]

You may need to mod the plugs to the body lights to get the extra indicators and side lights to work.



Personally I think this arrangement of 2 side lights and 2 indicators each side gives a much better indication of the size of the car that people are following - the two little lights in the bumper are just too small when following one in the dark  :shock:

Mine had the correct plugs already powered to the multi-plugs.

Couldn't agree more regarding the (now) correctlymarked rear dimensions.
My only problem is now that I've bought a new Ifor-Williams P6e with a (chequer-plate) ramp tail-gate it blocks all the Discovery lights at night :roll:

[Bush Tucker Man]

It blocks them during day-time as well :)  
Just before anyone asks :roll:  :D  

[Andy.]

ooh you were quick there, just about to hit that key  :lol:

[Bush Tucker Man]

Once the guarantee is out (next October) I''ll probably cut the chequer-plate & replace the top half with some strong 'Expanded-Mesh' (as used on floors of all good elevated walk-ways/gantries
http://finemeshmetals.co.uk/ (then 'Expanded Products')

But as also used on 'Plant Trailers'
http://www.trailers.co.uk/MEtrailers/plant.htm

[hobbit]

I have a job in that area to do, just changing from 200 to 300 lights with bumper lights too, been considering the configuration to do with them

Using the bumpers for indicators and fogs seems the best use for me, keeping the fogs as low down as poss, although I could use a stop/tail setup, having the 21 watt side as a fog light use, like some of the vauxhalls have, (thinking of an old Carlton I had)

Already have a high level brake light in the top of the window, just figuring out what to do with the main reds, stop/tail in the top, and use the spare reds for extra brake lights, mmmm looks like a think on this