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« on: November 16, 2004, 21:37:34 »
I have been having problems for a while now with having to to crank my V8 for ages to get it to catch.  The ammount that you have to crank it depends on how long you leave it i.e:
5 Mins - Starts Pretty Good
20 Mins to 2 Hrs - A real Git to start
Over Night - Okish but not what i would call normal

I have replaced the coil and the rotor arm with LR (Lucas) and the distributor cap and leads are also new.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as i currently have a very good battery and would like to keep it that way!
1990 Landrover Discovery
Mods: 2" Lift, most of arches chopped out and replaced with Devon 4x4 arch extensions to accomodate 265/75/16 Grizzly Claws, hybrid Evans UK/Rimmer Brothers exhaust, 3.9 efi V8 (Soon to be 4.6 if i can get round to fitting it!!)fitted, Landy LPG system, bull Bar etc, etc........ Now also sporting a Safari snorkle, Discoparts Rock sliders with tree protection, Discoparts Rear Bumper, Warn XD9000 winch, ARB dulux Bull Bar, Evans UK full external & part internal roll cage & chequer plate........Also RPI Tornado chip.

1999 Series 2 V8 GS Disco........ The sensible One coz i aint allowed to modify it AT ALL! Couldnt resist........ it's now running a sweet TD5 Alive exhaust system which sounds great you can hear my car on the exhaust section of the TD5 Alive Web site!

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2004, 22:31:43 »
Fuel heating up in the engine bay, check for heat shielding around the fuel supply.

Poor compression, more a problem on Diesels but worth checking, hot, warm and cold!

Wrong plugs.

Try leaving the bonnet open when it's been run, see if that makes a difference?  (I'm assuming you mean it won't fire, rather than won't turn over)
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 00:24:17 »
It does sound like fuel evaporation, old vw's used to be a swine for it. Is it on carbs or efi?
Cheers, Karl..


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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 08:46:04 »
Its on EFI.  What are the possible remedies for fuel evaporation?

I had a thought last night, when i installed the engine i didnt connect the wire from the fuel relay to the pump as it ram OK without it and the pump ran just fine......... what is this relay for?
1990 Landrover Discovery
Mods: 2" Lift, most of arches chopped out and replaced with Devon 4x4 arch extensions to accomodate 265/75/16 Grizzly Claws, hybrid Evans UK/Rimmer Brothers exhaust, 3.9 efi V8 (Soon to be 4.6 if i can get round to fitting it!!)fitted, Landy LPG system, bull Bar etc, etc........ Now also sporting a Safari snorkle, Discoparts Rock sliders with tree protection, Discoparts Rear Bumper, Warn XD9000 winch, ARB dulux Bull Bar, Evans UK full external & part internal roll cage & chequer plate........Also RPI Tornado chip.

1999 Series 2 V8 GS Disco........ The sensible One coz i aint allowed to modify it AT ALL! Couldnt resist........ it's now running a sweet TD5 Alive exhaust system which sounds great you can hear my car on the exhaust section of the TD5 Alive Web site!

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2004, 11:53:37 »
Ahha!!  I think i may have sussed the problem late last night.  My disco was originally a carbed V8 but then i put the 3.9 efi in, when i installed it i left the wiring for the fuel pump alone, as i assumed that it would run full time, but i was wrong.... it only runs when the engine does  :oops:
The efi fuel system needs to be primed before starting so there is fuel behind the injectors!!  To cut a long story short i have just taken the pump feed via a switch now so i can decide when the pump runs!

Thanks for the advice.
1990 Landrover Discovery
Mods: 2" Lift, most of arches chopped out and replaced with Devon 4x4 arch extensions to accomodate 265/75/16 Grizzly Claws, hybrid Evans UK/Rimmer Brothers exhaust, 3.9 efi V8 (Soon to be 4.6 if i can get round to fitting it!!)fitted, Landy LPG system, bull Bar etc, etc........ Now also sporting a Safari snorkle, Discoparts Rock sliders with tree protection, Discoparts Rear Bumper, Warn XD9000 winch, ARB dulux Bull Bar, Evans UK full external & part internal roll cage & chequer plate........Also RPI Tornado chip.

1999 Series 2 V8 GS Disco........ The sensible One coz i aint allowed to modify it AT ALL! Couldnt resist........ it's now running a sweet TD5 Alive exhaust system which sounds great you can hear my car on the exhaust section of the TD5 Alive Web site!

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2004, 14:14:30 »
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