Topic: thinking of getting a RRC (Read 8949 times)

SebastianW · « **Reply #30 on:** March 22, 2007, 22:19:05 »

oh, yeh...them. :roll: well I guess I shouldn't be surprised then! lol

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2007, 02:34:14 »

If sanity prevails and the conservative get back in they have expressed the possibilty they will re-introduce the 25 year tax exemption, with modifications possibly.

I think they will spend the first 6 years undoing all the f*** up the current government have instigated. The maybe I can get a proper job again.

Spacemud · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2007, 11:17:48 »

LPG is easy enough to get hold of if you live in a built up area. Once you get an LPG motor you spot them and use the cheapest usually, but if your desperately low, use the more expensive petrol station. Lowest price around here is 38p, highest 45p per litre so they do vary quite a bit. A quick search on Google, etc will give you a list of the local ones.
You can get it at petrol stations but there is the added advantage of suppliers like 'Budget Gas' who often have a pump and tend to be cheaper than the likes of Shell and BP.

I can fill the tank for Ã‚Â£28 instead of about Ã‚Â£55 so you would be saving a hell of a lot on fuel!

Oh, and there is NEVER a queue at the pump which is great!! :lol:

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2007, 13:41:36 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

If sanity prevails and the conservative get back in they have expressed the possibilty they will re-introduce the 25 year tax exemption, with modifications possibly.

I think they will spend the first 6 years undoing all the f*** up the current government have instigated. The maybe I can get a proper job again.

Bit based :? What about MIRAS and married mans tax? etc,
Anyway,
ONLY 6 years to go if its rolling date

Steve

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2007, 21:07:45 »

I don't earn enough to pay tax anymore.

SebastianW · « **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2007, 21:24:45 »

Sometimes I think we'd be better without a government :roll:

SebastianW · « **Reply #36 on:** March 23, 2007, 21:32:12 »

Well I've decided that I'm going to get a petrol rangie.
But now I'm stuck with another conundrum :roll: , auto or manual.

Everyone I've asked says auto, but I've always promised myself that unless I live in a city, I will not have an auto. And I like to be in alot of control of a vehicle and I fear I wont be in much control with an auto. I'm sure that wont be the case, but I do like to change up late and feel the thrill of going up the gears, you know? It's FUN. :lol: :P

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #37 on:** March 23, 2007, 21:44:06 »

Yes I too used to say if you wanted an Auto you should have your leg sut off first, but I'm swapping the cr****y old Sherpa van gearbox in Blue for an auto.

I'm converted and no-one can give me a valid reason I shouldn't swap, even ignoring the economics of the matter.

The 4 speed auto is a good unit, it will do the miles, locks up in 4th for economy, no clutches to fry, uses the power of either V8 or TDi well, particulary the V8 and quite frankly I don't think I'd be holding the lower gears quite as long as my Auto does anyway.

Add to that I have a knee injury though, so I like cruise control as well

SebastianW · « **Reply #38 on:** March 23, 2007, 21:55:40 »

Well I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
Wont having 4 gears instead of 5 affect acceleration?

What is approx. the power loss you from an auto compared to manual? Does anyone know?

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #39 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:24:09 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

I don't earn enough to pay tax anymore.

I not married any more :lol: :lol:

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #40 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:26:45 »

On a manual it's 4th direct, on an auto it's 3rd direct, so roughly speaking there is no 1st gear. Bit autos dont work like that, you have a fluid coupling or torque converter that works like a constantly variable gearbox, so it does the job nicely and when accelerating the gearchanges are much slicker.

Don't know about the power consumed by the gearvbox but there will be some, that's why they are not so good behind a small engine.

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #41 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:28:46 »

Quote from: "sebw36912"

Well I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
Wont having 4 gears instead of 5 affect acceleration?

What is approx. the power loss you from an auto compared to manual? Does anyone know?

You cant realisticly measure it, best to test drive both and make an informed decision for yourself

My preference is still auto

Steve

SebastianW · « **Reply #42 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:30:23 »

Quote from: "hairyasswelder"

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
I don't earn enough to pay tax anymore.

I not married any more :lol: :lol:

Sorry to hear it. Although you seem to be unreasuringly happy about it. :?

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #43 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:35:08 »

Quote from: "sebw36912"

Quote from: "hairyasswelder"
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
I don't earn enough to pay tax anymore.

I not married any more :lol: :lol:

Sorry to hear it. Although you seem to be unreasuringly happy about it. :?

Times change, now with g/f and newborn son, never been happier :lol: :lol:

Steve

SebastianW · « **Reply #44 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:44:59 »

Ok, thanks all. Well if I had to make a snap decision right now, I think I'd take auto.

SO, vehicle decided, engine decided, gearbox decided. Now all I need is money :roll:
well that's life, I suppose.

Anyone have any recommendations for MTs?

SebastianW · « **Reply #45 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:47:43 »

Quote from: "hairyasswelder"

Times change, now with g/f and newborn son, never been happier :lol: :lol:

Steve

Well lucky you. :)

SebastianW · « **Reply #46 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:52:27 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

On a manual it's 4th direct, on an auto it's 3rd direct, so roughly speaking there is no 1st gear. Bit autos dont work like that, you have a fluid coupling or torque converter that works like a constantly variable gearbox, so it does the job nicely and when accelerating the gearchanges are much slicker.

Don't know about the power consumed by the gearvbox but there will be some, that's why they are not so good behind a small engine.

Damn autos are complicated! :?
I'm going to have to do some tough-thinking research tomorrow to get to understand them.

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #47 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:53:43 »

One tiny problem-ette with an V8 is that many MTs are not rated correctly for the speed the V8 is capable of.

Otherwise I'd say Machos are good, BFG are ok.

Xtremeteam · « **Reply #48 on:** March 23, 2007, 22:59:55 »

Quote from: "sebw36912"

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
On a manual it's 4th direct, on an auto it's 3rd direct, so roughly speaking there is no 1st gear. Bit autos dont work like that, you have a fluid coupling or torque converter that works like a constantly variable gearbox, so it does the job nicely and when accelerating the gearchanges are much slicker.

Don't know about the power consumed by the gearvbox but there will be some, that's why they are not so good behind a small engine.

Damn autos are complicated! :?
I'm going to have to do some tough-thinking research tomorrow to get to understand them.

i did the section on autos at college & think london underground & remove the colours for the piping & routes in the valve block

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #49 on:** March 23, 2007, 23:05:41 »

Auto gearboxes are like women....... never meant to be understood.

When things are rosey then go with it....... if it goes belly up..... replace it :lol:

Steve

SebastianW · « **Reply #50 on:** March 23, 2007, 23:20:04 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

One tiny problem-ette with an V8 is that many MTs are not rated correctly for the speed the V8 is capable of.

Otherwise I'd say Machos are good, BFG are ok.

BUT, how often are you going to speed over muddy terrain and while rock crawling? You tend to go slowely-ish, right?

Quote from: "hairyasswelder"

Auto gearboxes are like women....... never meant to be understood.

When things are rosey then go with it....... if it goes belly up..... replace it :lol:

Steve

I always strive to understand as must as possible. Including auto gearboxes, and so women included...

...when I can be bothered, that is! :P

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #51 on:** March 24, 2007, 09:51:23 »

Doesnt matter how fast or slow you drive. a tyre is rated to max speed of vehicle, 102 mph (V8) Insurance company says so :roll:

I have done 102 mph in mine once in 3 1/2 years. apart from it being above the speed limit etc and I on 3rd change of tyres

There are plenty of tyres out there to suit all conditions

Steve

SebastianW · « **Reply #52 on:** March 24, 2007, 10:24:13 »

Oh right, well I'm planning on having a set for purely on-road and a set for off-road. I think I forgot to mention that. :lol:

You dont exactly have to worry about going over 102mph off-road do you? :P So I could just get some on-road tyres that can go fast enough.

P.S. Can a V8 Rangie seriously go 100+? :shock: My Dad's 3.5 90 goes 80mph tops :?

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #53 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:23:54 »

Quote from: "sebw36912"

P.S. Can a V8 Rangie seriously go 100+? :shock: My Dad's 3.5 90 goes 80mph tops :?

Yep :shock: will cruise at 80 on motorway :lol: its all down to the gearing

RR was designed to be more friendly on road than a 90

Steve

102 is top speed for 3.5 V8 EFI

SebastianW · « **Reply #54 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:22:07 »

nice. forget defenders, it's range rovers all the way! :D

I found this site about rangies, it's all american, but I guess it cant be that much different to our rangies.
http://www.rangerovers.net/rrspecs.htm

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #55 on:** March 24, 2007, 19:07:09 »

It's all about what speed the car is capable of, otherwise you could argue they only need to be able to do 70, which is the legal speed limit anyway.

The anniversary Defender 90s with the 4.0L aurto were electronically limited to 100 mmph becasue the BFG at is only rated at this speed for a 7.50 R16 tyre.

Apparently the hot wire EFi is also speed limited anyway, to about 108 for a 3.9 and IIRC 110 for a 4.2.

SebastianW · « **Reply #56 on:** March 25, 2007, 22:29:56 »

ok, yeh. ty

a few things though;
BFG?
how does a Hot wire EFi differ to a...well, EFi?

seb

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #57 on:** March 25, 2007, 22:38:46 »

Quote from: "sebw36912"

ok, yeh. ty

a few things though;
BFG?
how does a Hot wire EFi differ to a...well, EFi?

seb

Different EFI system

To simplify - Early EFI was on 3.5 using what we call 'flapper system' with moving parts. When 3.9 introduced it had better/new EFI system called 'hotwire' with no moving parts

BFG - BF Goodrich Tyre manufacturer

Good but expensive

Steve

SebastianW · « **Reply #58 on:** March 25, 2007, 23:45:58 »

ohh right. thanks steve.

also, IIRC?

hehe

seb

Yoshi · « **Reply #59 on:** March 26, 2007, 00:03:54 »

iirc = if i remember correctly

tyres wise colway mt's are good and not very damaging to the wallet

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