Any Cyclists in West Yorkshire Around?

[Bush Tucker Man]

Is there anyone who can help me with a pair of sticky STI levers?

I've just started riding one of my bikes again & the STI levers are annoying me.
The levers are 1998 model RX100 (road groupset) that were on my Raleigh Optima, before transfer onto the frameset they now grace.
(the Optima frameset is for sale )
 
The front one will allow upward changes, but does two things out of the ordinary;
1. As the movement is made, the entire lever sticks at a sideways angle.
2. It refuses to down-change onto the small chainring & has to be assisted by pulling on the cable as it runs along the down-tube before complying.

The rear one sticks on up-changes, until at least 3 movements are made (it only moves one gear at a time though, thankfully)
Down-shifts are no problem with it.

Is it a matter of simple lubrication, and possibly new (inner & outer) cables given that the bike had been standing untouched for almost 3 years?
Or is there a more in-depth problem with the levers??





I haven't tried my Dyna-Tech to see if that exhibits the same problem (but that was used once about 18months ago & worked perfectly)

[muddymesser]

go for a gearin system by sram thats what i use on my moutain bike n i have had no problems with them

sram trx are the best

[Bush Tucker Man]

go for a gearin system by sram thats what i use on my moutain bike n i have had no problems with them

sram trx are the best

I used to use XT II (thumbshifters) on my Pace Research, & they were superb for the 'hammer' they got racing & getting mud & tree in them.

If I do ride 'cross' again next winter, I'm not too sure about STI levers, as even though a lot of riders use it, bar-end shifters are more reliable in bad conditions

[muddymesser]

d u mean shimano xtII???

i know that the shimano deore xt are good

[Bush Tucker Man]

d u mean shimano xtII???

i know that the shimano deore xt are good

Yes.
When I was racing, old timer talking now :roll:
(I gave up totally in about '96)

The hierachy was XTII, then Deore II

[strapping young lad]

shove an xtr set on there.. you know you want to (and also empty your bank at the same time)

[Bush Tucker Man]

shove an xtr set on there.. you know you want to (and also empty your bank at the same time)

XTR is a MTB group-set, or it was the last time I looked

The levers are 1998 model RX100 (road groupset)

It's a set on a road-bike that's playing up

[strapping young lad]

try

www.chainreactioncycles.com

[muddymesser]

while were on this subject what do you think would be the best mechanisms and shifters for a trials bike ??? oh yeah its a 24 speed with a fairly low ratio

[DFR]

if it has been sat for a while I would spend a bit of money on new cables and spray a bit of lube (GT85 my favorite) in the shifters and on the front and rear mechs and ease them about abit by hand. You should then find that it all works nice and free again.

As for trials most of them use a short cage rear mech usually a road one as they are cheaper and regularly get broken, they also use a rear cassette of a road bike as well for the closer ratio gears. As for shifter you will need  a 7 or 8 speed one as 9 speed is not compatible (different spacing between the shifts). If you mix the groupset between sram and shimano make sure you get the right compatiblity parts as they dont nesasarily work together.

hope this helps

Dom

[Bush Tucker Man]

try

www.chainreactioncycles.com

Thanks Dyf, but there's a branch of Evans Cycles over at the 'Xscape' complex about 5miles away
http://www.evanscycles.com/

DFR
That's probably the initial best bet, as I've never taken one apart before & was hoping to avoid having to strip bar-tape away and remove the lever entirely.
It's probably just sticking & not being helped by the old grease that's partially solidified

[Bush Tucker Man]

As for trials most of them use a short cage rear mech usually a road one as they are cheaper and regularly get broken, they also use a rear cassette of a road bike as well for the closer ratio gears

Most road clusters that I've used on my 'good bikes' have been fairly closely spaced.
I think that my Dyna-Tech carries a 8-speed 12-21 (along with 52/39 chainrings)
You can, or could a 12-19 block
I had one on an older bike, but they're hard bl**dy work unless it's billiard table smooth, and totally appallling in the hills

[muddymesser]

cheers dfr

for gear cables i use 1s from halfods by clarks their teflon coated and are super smooth on shifting especially with a bit of grease on it . . . for brakes try shimano m systems cables their cheep but effective  :)

[DFR]

I do like those teflon cables, but the only trouble I found was when they wear a bit water can get under neath and rust inside. That is on a mtb though with lack of maintenance though so they will be no probs on a road bike as long as they are not to thick for the STI's as if i remember rightly they are only made to take a 0.8mm cable

Dom

[Bush Tucker Man]

Curiously enough the rear lever worked perfectly during this afternoons ride.
The front still sticks in a fully depressed position, but changes back down onto the small-chain-ring at the first attempt  :D

I must be getting a bit fitter, as I came back up the by-pass (a long drag) 2 gears higher than yesterday and at a slightly higher cadence :D  :D

[KevinStorr]

1st new cables inner and outer.
I have been told different things over the years regarding spraying oil into the shifter mech on STI levers.

I have been using a silicon spray not GT 85 as its doesn't attract any bits.

I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.

[DFR]

1st new cables inner and outer.
I have been told different things over the years regarding spraying oil into the shifter mech on STI levers.

I have been using a silicon spray not GT 85 as its doesn't attract any bits.

I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.

I only ever use GT85 as a penatrating oil to free things off such as sticky cables and shifters, then give them an oiling afterwards.

Gary Ford and Tim Gould they are some names I havent heard in a while.

[Bush Tucker Man]

I I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.

Gary Ford and Tim Gould they are some names I havent heard in a while.

I remember Tim Gould when he was only riding Cyclo-Cross for Peugeot. He's a nice guy, as is his dad (Harry)
I think he still lives in Wirksworth? (near Matlock)
His team-mates were David Baker (& later Fred Salmon)
In 1989 they went across to the States on early (753 & Campagnolo MTBs) & annihilated the Yanks at races like Mammoth Mountain!

Baker then went over to Raleigh, with Paul Hinton & Caroline Alexander

A few other riders of note from the period were;
Tim Davis (Alpinestars)
Deb Murrell (Dave Yates, then; OffRoad)
Steve Worland & my namesake (Pace Research)
Chris Young (another nice guy, I know him & his brother)
Sally Hibberd
Barrie Clark
Nick Craig

[KevinStorr]

Yep those where the days.

MY first MTB was a Raleigh Appalachian with a 531 frame and Shimano Deore groupset. My sister now uses that bike still going strong.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Yep those where the days.

MY first MTB was a Raleigh Appalachian

Blimey, I remember that model!


My first was a Carrera from Halfords, that lasted roughly 3 months before I saw sense & bought a (1989) Marin Pine Mountain.

SWMBOs first MTB was a Marin Bear Valley (also a '89)
My mate Nick (who features in my 'Cycling' albums on my 'www') still has that, he rides it to work most days - with various changes over the years)


Ought to have added hat I knew Tim Gould (& his dad) due to competing at the same Cyclo-Cross events on occasions.
I also know (through mutual friends) Roger Hammond

[DFR]

dont know if this is turning into a what MTB link but

I started about 91 with a carrera which as above lasted about 3 months and then got myself a Marin Rocky Ridge which was a 93 model I think. Then the big money came out and I bought a custom built Manitou FS (which is still in my shed). I have had countless bikes since but in the shed at the moment is a GT Ruckus I drive and a Santa Cruz V10 (frame and forks rear wheel up for sale when I get around to it)

[muddymesser]

i jus have a emmelle outlaw moutain bike that stayed in th shed for a year then i started messin and £200-£300 later i got th same frame jus modiyed resprayed and new gearin from scratch

triels bike is a work in progress


Santa Cruz V10 (frame and forks rear wheel up for sale when I get around to it)how much u thinking of ??

[DFR]

as was thinking £600 for frame £150 for the forks (boxxer teams 2004 if i remember rightly) only got used in France last year. The frame quite scratched as I used to do a lot of racing but that is only cosmetic. The rear wheel will go with the frame as it has the floating disc brake as will the seat post and the headset. I will be open to offers though but that is the reserve I was going to ebay it for

cheers Dom

[muddymesser]

hmmm i think i'll stick with mine for now

i'd rater have summat i can throw around n not worry about
thats why i like my messed with bike  :D  although i got a dodgy bearing on th center axle :(

[DFR]

not a problem, its a down hill race bike and no good for anything other than hammering down hills!

do you mean the bearing on the bottom bracket, the axle in he middle which holds the cranks on. If so these days they are a generally a sealed unit which means take it out and get a replacement the right size and bin the old one. Prices start about £15, a good local shop should be able to sort you out

Dom

[muddymesser]

thats the 1 . . . i got 1 for my current project bike and didnt know about 1 havein reversed thred . . . its only a ally frame so it went in and [!Expletive Deleted!] up th thred on the frame  either way its in right now n its not coming out


oh any one have a rough guess on prices for disk brake pads . . . i inhereted a bike from work with em on

[deli hustler]

A few other riders of note from the period were;
Tim Davis (Alpinestars)
Deb Murrell (Dave Yates, then; OffRoad)
Steve Worland & my namesake (Pace Research)
Chris Young (another nice guy, I know him & his brother)
Sally Hibberd
Barrie Clark
Nick Craig

Tim Davies works in one of my local leisure centre
Nick Craig was doing the mtb enduro I did on the weekend, rides for Scott now, very nice guy

[Bush Tucker Man]

Tim Davies works in one of my local leisure centre
Nick Craig was doing the mtb enduro I did on the weekend, rides for Scott now, very nice guy

Tim worked in one before he was racing (well, sponsored anyway) as far a I recall?

On the Yankee front, a few others from when I was racing;
Missy Giove was always a real 'charactor', with the dead Pirahna around her neck (rode for Yeti)
Juliana Furtado (also Yeti)
John Tomac
Ned Overend & Sara Ballantyne (Specialised)
Susan DeMattei (Diamond Back?)
Rishi Grewal (GT)
Bob Roll
Greg Herbold (blonde hair, rode for Miata?)

[deli hustler]

Greg Herbold works for Rockshox now in r&d (best forks you can buy)
John Tomac's bike firm have just got a new importer
Ned Overend still works for Specialized
Tomas Frishnet was long distance world champ last year (I think)
Tinker Juarez is 24 hour champ

[Bush Tucker Man]

Greg Herbold works for Rockshox now in r&d (best forks you can buy)
Tomas Frishnet was long distance world champ last year (I think)

S'funny I thought those were the ones that my old acquaintances Adrian Carter & Steve Duncan-Smith(?) produced



I saw 'Frischy' twice in Leeds in November 1992.
He rode the Nations Cup, a 'warm up' event for the World Cyclo-Cross Championship that was also held here in Roundhay Park


I rode in the 'Senior' event that was a supporting act for the Nations Cup. What an experience with that crowd!! :shock: