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« on: April 16, 2007, 23:25:28 »
Someone be kind to an old duffer of a Land Rover owner and tell me if a 1.6 16v multipoint injection suzuki vitara engine 1993 will fit in place of a 1990 Vitara 1590cc G16A engine?
My youngest lad is getting close to driving age and my insurance company will not insure him to drive my Defender and we have a Zuk with the bigend on number one piston knocking like a woodpecker on speed.
It looks like it has taken the crank with it and there is a 16v 1600 on ebay so will it fit or have you got a better suggestion.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 23:33:11 »
You will need ECU, probobly fuel pump(filter if fitted) and possibly a return hose to the tank/pump. I would imagine its a drop in otherwise. CFi engine drops easy enough but I didnt know the was an MPFI one.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 06:50:21 »
Or you could swap the bottom ends over.......i am sure Mr insurance man woud prefer a nice 8 v to a 16v.... :D
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2007, 10:20:17 »
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Or you could swap the bottom ends over.......i am sure Mr insurance man woud prefer a nice 8 v to a 16v.... :D

Are the engines the same block?
Can I take the head off the G16A and put it on the 16v short engine?
Sorry about all the questions but these zuks are new to me (looking forward to testing it in the sticky stuff \:D/  \:D/ )
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 11:03:51 »
are you paying for your sons insurance? coz ill be in the similar situation to your son, ive only been driving a year and a half, got no ncb, only got passplus and i want to insure myself on my vit lol the cheapest quote i got online was £1500 3rd f&t lol im glad ill be working full time soon
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 20:24:30 »
I am fairly sure the blocks are identical.I will go no difflock and ask.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 20:33:01 »
Quote from: "wheelspinner"
I am fairly sure the blocks are identical.I will go no difflock and ask.

Thank you, it would be very useful to know.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 08:03:41 »
Quote from: "wheelspinner"
I am fairly sure the blocks are identical.I will go no difflock and ask.


Ah, that explains the source of that question :)
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2007, 22:23:21 »
Apparently the 8 and 16v blocks are identical it just the gubbins that go on the top that is very different.....
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 08:04:17 »
ive put a 8v injection engine in my carb and ive put the carb head on the 8v single point block.

I recal something about the 16v having slightly differnt pistons but im not 100%
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 17:43:55 »
just to say a 16v bottom end will go strait on to 8v top.just done it myselt :D also vits arnt cheap when young,im 20 and got a full modded vit and pay well over £2000 a year,plus 2 ncp :(
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 18:32:04 »
Well thank you all for your help.
Look as if we will be droping another lump in it and takeing it off road, as you say the insurance is a little high.
Either that or does anyone want to buy a 1990 Vit with a duff engine.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2007, 08:04:00 »
Slightly changing this a bit, but i was looking at Insurance for my vitara out of interest (already sorted somewhere else) but i am 18, passplus and RAC HD Awareness course or whatever it is, no NCB, got a quote for 1038 quid! Which i thought was fairly reasonable!

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 09:18:09 »
Quote from: "MrShogun"
got a quote for 1038 quid! Which i thought was fairly reasonable!

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Maybe it is me but I am 51 years old, 60% NCB and the insurance on my Defender is less than £82 pa fully comp.
Am I 12.5 times less likely to have a claim than you?
Your age group must be a bunch of total loonies if that is the case and I know there are some out there but they are in the minority.
This is just insurance companies cashing in on the drivers of today and the police forces of the country (not the officers but the system they are forced to operate) taking the easy way out.
I have had my company car broken into twice and all the police do is give you a crime number and say contact you insurance.
If they are not even going to investigate the CRIME than where the hell is the deterrent to stop the perpetrators from committing them.

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 09:19:13 »
My insurance is 170 for the year.  That's a 5000 mile limited policy with all the modifications listed.  I have the luxury of another car so a limited mileage policy is entirely acceptable.

It also helps that I'm 30 with full no claims ;)

That was through Snowball, if anyone wants to try a quote.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 09:33:24 »
Quote from: "MrShogun"
Slightly changing this a bit, but i was looking at Insurance for my vitara out of interest (already sorted somewhere else) but i am 18, passplus and RAC HD Awareness course or whatever it is, no NCB, got a quote for 1038 quid! Which i thought was fairly reasonable!

Matt


matt that aint bad at all, im 18 going on 19 end of may, passplus, 0 NCB and i got a quote online for my vit for £1500 3rd party f&t!!
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2007, 10:20:09 »
Glad im an old fuddy duddy..
but weve all been there, hang in boys and bite the bullet..
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2007, 17:47:36 »
the reason mine is so hi is i use it every day,parked on drive and all mods listed :cry: would be nice to have a 2nd car but got nowhere to put it,also just love driving it so much 8)  :D
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