Topic: discovery 1 200 tdi turbo (Read 2665 times)

crazylady · « **on:** May 16, 2007, 19:16:16 »

help car been in garage for two weeks mechanic still cant fix. turbo works because when top intercooler pipe taken off air was rushing through and can hear turbo working.there is no power at all cant even get up hill. waste gate is not jammed because it moves freely. bottom turbo hose been changed. mechanic said hoses were spongy but after 2 weeks he says "dont know i cant figure out why". cv joint broke so i drove home on diff lock changed cv and since then no power dont know if this is coneccted. i live in portsmouth am willing to pay somebody who knows their landys as costing me a fortune through a garage that finds every fault but the right one. slindon on the 27th and i let my son down for his birthday last time so really want to get it sorted so i can keep promise this time :( ideally need a decent mechanic locally for ongoing work and ongoing and ongoing and well need i say more

chris9119 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2007, 19:49:03 »

:?:

Does the engine run and freely rev up :?:

Have you placed it on axle stands to see if all wheels turn correctly :?:

From the answers, there could be more questions.......

Chris

muddyjames · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2007, 20:12:59 »

Will go out to my car now and get you the number of a landy expert who is my dads ex's mate who has worked on landies for 30 pluss years. Great bloke and knows his stuff and close to you.

muddyjames · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2007, 20:18:43 »

Went out to car and it isnt there :shock:

I have a van for the next few days. Get my car back tomorrow or fri. PM me to remind me and will get his business card out and give you the details. He is an absolute 100% genuine honest guy and knows his stuff.

I know he lives in hedge end which looking at a map is spitting distance of Portsmouth

beast5680 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2007, 21:12:38 »

when does it have no power? when on the road or when standing still? as chris said does it rev freely?
are the hoses from the air filter ok is the filter ok?
also is it auto or manual?

muddyjames · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2007, 18:17:42 »

I have found his number in my phone by fluke. His work number is 01489799399 and his name is Jez.

I get my car back tomorrow so can tell you his exact location but I do it is near Hedge End.

Tell him you heard of him from me James butler, son of the late John Butler and if he doesnt remember me then say used to be Silvana Minto's partner. He will remember her due to wierd name!

Absolute top bloke that I cant rate highly enough. Best Landy guy in the south of the country. He knows his stuff.

Let me know how you get on.

beast5680 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2007, 18:22:57 »

Quote from: "muddyjames"

if he doesnt remember me then say used to be Silvana Minto's partner. He will remember her due to wierd name!

.

i,m sure i,ve seen her films :? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

crazylady · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2007, 19:13:08 »

thanks for all your replies its a diesel and it loses power when going uphill hoses have been replaced.the filter is clean had it checked

muddyjames · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2007, 19:14:44 »

could it be a normal tdi engine? My disco drops down the gears like they are falling out the bottom when going up hills too especially when towing it is even faster to slow down and crawl!!!

Disco-Ron · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2007, 19:31:53 »

It's all very well to know that the turbo is working, but if there's a hole in the intercooler for example, it won't hold boost....... hence really slow.....

Just a thought!!

wizard · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2007, 20:16:20 »

Only two things will stop a diesel, lack of air or lack of fuel.
Take the pipe of the plenum chamber,thats the bit the top of the dip stick is attached to.
Rev the engine up to 3000rpm, if it revs freely you shouldnt be able to block off the pipe going to the to the plenum chamber from the intercooler, if you can keep you hand over the pipe (intercooler side)then turbo is proberly stuffed
If it wont reach 3000 rpm you proberly have a lack of fuel, the main culprits are either the fuel lift pump or a hole in the fuel line where the two fuel lines come out of the top of the fuel tank.
Pull the boot carpet up and you will see a round cover on the floor plate, the fuel line are underneath.

Sorry if its a bit of a ramble.

regards
wizard :twisted:

extreme90 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2007, 22:06:00 »

what tyres you got ?
does it pull up the gears fine then just loose its guts on hills ?

sounds like booste pressure to me if its suffering on hills

have you actualy checked to see what the turbo is producing ? or just see if it blows
as a completely shot turbo will stil blow agood draft when the top intercooler pipes removed, until it comes under load up a hill then it cant preduce

have you tried it with the exhaust off to eliminate any form of restriction in the exhaust system ?

if it was a leaking fuel pipe, when engine is turned off and left over night
it would be a royal PITA to start in the morning and would run lumpy as hell until the air went out of the system
you would also be getting a slight miss fire depending on how bad the pipes were gone

if its fine on flat but when you hit a incline it makes me thin restriction in zaust ( so chocking the engine...acting like a engine break on trucks )

no boost pressure

or gearing

dan

waveydavey · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2007, 20:36:44 »

First thing I would do is bin the garage and not pay the bill.

Stick a boost gauge on and find out what the boost really is. Any garage worth their salt would have done that by now. Make tappings before and after the intercooler if necessary.

As has been said it's air or fuel end of story. With the right kit it's very easy to find.

oddbod · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:24:23 »

:lol: thanks FOR ALL your replys to my wifes post the car has no bost or powerd not up hill and fills slugish between gear change starts noproblem so fuel system not got any leaks if some one could find time local to me i will pay for there troubles right now ebay is sounding good car has cost us 1500 in three months and cant take it off road please at m wits end now

muddyjames · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:25:45 »

Quote from: "muddyjames"

I have found his number in my phone by fluke. His work number is 01489799399 and his name is Jez.

Give Jez a call. He is very local to you and wil no doubt find the problem straight away. He is a sound honest chap and doens tcharge the earth either.

Honestly, give him a go!!!!!!!!

crazylady · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2007, 15:06:33 »

thanks for all your help again we did the take pipes off thing and it blows still. its not the tyres cos had them on since bought car. replaced all the hoses. and the guy with the comment about the garage your right he wont be getting paid .going to find that guy jez you told me about when hubby gets the car recovered from cambridge as the sump has now had a wee all down the street big hole in it. if it wasnt for the fact that we have now spent too much to give up would use it at the next destrution derby. i never seen a landy like it reckon it was parked in the sea half its life

muddyjames · « **Reply #16 on:** May 24, 2007, 16:30:39 »

Oh dear not good.

I didnt realise it was that bad a disco when you first mentioned it. I just thought it was a small teething trouble you had with the disco. Dint know it had a whole list of past major things going wrong!

When I took a series 3 to Jez he looked at it and said to me "just sell it as you will be spending more than it is worth mending it"

Lord Shagg-Pyle · « **Reply #17 on:** May 24, 2007, 18:54:59 »

This sounds very familiar to something that I had on mine a year ago. It me stumped. I knew it wasn't intercooler, pipes or turbo.
It turned out to be the simplest of things, namely crud in the fuel line. It was fine on tickover, but as soon as it was put under load, the revs dropped away to nothing.
I had the lines blown through at a diesel specialist in Portsmouth and it has been fine since.
I put it down to poor quality from fuel at Morrisons, as I had filled up there and it happened two days after that.
I'd get that checked.
Good luck, and don't give up on the Beasty yet. I have one the same as yours and it goes like a dream, apart from when it gets fed cruddy fuel :roll:

extreme90 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 24, 2007, 19:35:27 »

you cant simulate boost loads when not driving the landy, yes the turbo will blow abit, but it wont be on boost so you think its ok when really it might not even be producing the 0,8 bar that it should be doing at full throttle up hill in 3rd or 4th

dan

oddbod · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2007, 17:11:35 »

thanks guys and girls but its over the beast has thrown its dummy out the pram.inlet/exhaust valves are not working like they should and when the sump was done found bearing casings me thinks game over :( :?:

extreme90 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2007, 18:12:21 »

psst, thats easy to fix
id be fitting new valves and seeing how bad the crank is if was me :roll:

cant see it being bearings tho :?
mains nor big ends go these days , far more advanced than they used to be
dan

oddbod · « **Reply #21 on:** May 25, 2007, 19:52:42 »

what if i buy a new head one giant bank lone coming up is it the head or deeper down the bowls of darkness :twisted:

extreme90 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 25, 2007, 22:42:56 »

why not buy valves, guids n seals ?

if your head isnt cracked y replace at the cost of 300 pounds when you can refurb yours for a fraction ?

dan

The Fat Controller · « **Reply #23 on:** May 26, 2007, 20:23:17 »

if it's still in cambridge you can work on it at my place,i can also pick it up and move it about if it's of any help.

oddbod · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2007, 16:45:37 »

thank you all for your info on this matter she lives it was the diaphram on the fuel pump i now have power lots of power

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