Public Service announcement, M27

[Evilgoat]

Sorry had one of THOSE trips home:

The M27 between Eastleight and the A27 at Farlington actually has 3 lanes!
Yes really, it does, count them! There is absolutely no reason to cause traffic chaos because there are two lanes! You really can just indicate and pull into that spare lane.

But thats the hard shoulder I hear you cry!
No, the hard shoulder is the one with the solid white line.

While we are at it, when theres a queue for the junction feel free to think you know better and use the middle lane to cut in at the end, thus causing the rest of the traffic behind you to have to go from 70 to 5 in about 3 foot and causing mayhem as 400 odd cars try not to pummel you into scrap metal.

When the rest of the road users around you finally give up at suggesting you move out of the middle lane and start overtaking you on both sides its generally OK to swear and gesticulate at them all, after all, 45 in the middle lane when the inside lane is empty is just fine.

Then theres the Tesco twins in their HGVs drag racing each other up Portsdown hill. I mean come on guys, its so much fun to watch as you both his the speed limiters at exactly the same speed and then stay abrest all the way up the busiest section of the M27 causing 3 lanes of traffic to cram into one and a 5 mile tail back to the next junction. Foot to the floor just hoping that your collegues limiter is a few 0.001mph lower than yours.

Contrary to popular beleif, most German cars do actually come with indicators, and other inferior cars are allowed to use the outside lane, no really, they are! Although please, feel free to accelerate/brake so no-one else can get out from behind the Tesco twins.

In fact most cars have indicators and amazingly, they do work before you start turning/changing lanes

And finally, when you are driving at night and you realise you have a car behind you with hazards on, flashing you, and a car in front driving on hazards you might want to conside not swearing at them but TURNING YOUR DAMN HEADLIGHTS ON!

[TDi90]

Then theres the Tesco twins in their HGVs drag racing each other up Portsdown hill. I mean come on guys, its so much fun to watch as you both his the speed limiters at exactly the same speed and then stay abrest all the way up the busiest section of the M27 causing 3 lanes of traffic to cram into one and a 5 mile tail back to the next junction. Foot to the floor just hoping that your collegues limiter is a few 0.001mph lower than yours.

Contrary to popular beleif, most German cars do actually come with indicators, and other inferior cars are allowed to use the outside lane, no really, they are! Although please, feel free to accelerate/brake so no-one else can get out from behind the Tesco twins.

you couldnt be more right... M27 is getting worse and worse due to people not moving over after overtaking someone  

[666]

That is very funny, but unfortunatley very true and not just on the M27!
I shall be traveling on the M25 tomorrow from JCT 25 to JCT 10 and i am realy not looking forward to it!

I may not be the best driver in the world and like others i have got a few bad habits behind the wheel, but some peoples driving is frightening!
Most of us drive big 4x4's, but how many times have people pulled out in front of you or cut you up and then act like they jusy didnt see you? :twisted:

Maybe we all need big flashing lights on our motors :roll:

Cheers

Mark

[tomarse]

Then theres the Tesco twins in their HGVs drag racing each other up Portsdown hill. I mean come on guys, its so much fun to watch as you both his the speed limiters at exactly the same speed and then stay abrest all the way up the busiest section of the M27 causing 3 lanes of traffic to cram into one and a 5 mile tail back to the next junction. Foot to the floor just hoping that your collegues limiter is a few 0.001mph lower than yours.

If it makes you feel better there was a very annoyed truck (which i believe was a tesco one) following me on the dual carriageway last night.  :lol:
He didnt understand the principles of old cars and hills and kept flashing me with his lights like i could change gravity!
When i was doing 70 and slowing to 55 as we got further up the hill it was because my car wouldnt go any faster!. I was noticing the slope and had my foot on the floor!
He sat right on my bumper and then everytime we approached the crest of a hill he would decided to overtake me at 55... then as we would reach the top of the hill and start going downhill I could then speed up again - usually just as he got level with me.
I think he had 3 tries before we finished with the hills and i lost him. Flashed at me every single time! but still never tried to overtake me earlier! ;)
Everybody should have to do atleast one trip in an old car/landrover so they can understand momentum and hills.

[Bunnie]

yes! they seem to think the big black 90 sat in there rear seats is just invisable when they pull in/out on you! what makes it worse is mums bloomin horn doest work or the headlight flash so i have to sit and curse myself!

[666]

Everybody should have to do atleast one trip in an old car/landrover so they can understand momentum and hills.

While your comment is very true, the wagon driver is supposed to be a "proffesional driver" and should have known better! It just shows you how driving standards have slipped  

Cheers

Mark

[Evilgoat]

Tesco DC wagons, especially Snodland, Nursling and Wheybridge are mostly driven by non uk persons.

[Yoshi]

One other point to make as well:

Lorry drivers often complain about cars taking up their braking distance, yet when it suits them they will ride 2m off the bumper of the vehicle in front???

[Lucy1978]

Had some eeejit in an Audi drive in to the side of me on the M25 a couple of weeks ago.  decided he was going to pull out of a jct. in to a gap that didn't exist.  Landrover 1 Audi nil

[Range Rover Blues]

Sorry but from what I remember of driving in the south of England you have a different highway code, there are in fact 2 breaking down lanes, one lane for Volvos and old folks in pork pie hats and the RH lane for reps, BMW drivers, white vans and all manner of other selfish so-and-so's who think their need to get anywhere is far greater than anyone elses.

[666]

Sorry but from what I remember of driving in the south of England you have a different highway code, there are in fact 2 breaking down lanes, one lane for Volvos and old folks in pork pie hats and the RH lane for reps, BMW drivers, white vans and all manner of other selfish so-and-so's who think their need to get anywhere is far greater than anyone elses.

Thats not far from the truth!
Went into Olympia (near Kensington for those not familiar with London) on tuesday and was driving around the North Circular and that was scary! Got further in to town and the drivers of big shiney motors did seem to give me plenty of room though!

Cheers

Mark

[TDi90]

jnct 10, isnt that the guildford junction off the M25?
you coming down SARF?!!
where to?
R

[666]

jnct 10, isnt that the guildford junction off the M25?
you coming down SARF?!!
where to?
R

I am sot of down south in hertfordshire,
Going to Broxhead, Borden with Thames Valley 4x4.
Camping saturday night and driving/promotional day sunday!

Cheers

Mark

[Dirty Gertie]

There was a discussion on the Jeremy Vine prog yesterday luchtime on the subject of Centre Lane hOGS and some stupid muppet was given airtime to justify his ridiculous habit of 'CLOGging' by saying that it was safer for him to drive in the middle lane at all times, since it "prevented anyone preparing to leave the motorway from impeding his progress, and he was not impeding anyone joining at junctions, and it is far safer than weaving from lane to lane to pass slower vehicles" hmm, yeah, great, what about all the MILES of M/way with no junction in sight???? :roll: Oh, and he INSISTED that the lanes are designated "slow" - for trucks and caravans, "cruising" - presumably for idiots like himself, and "overtaking" - I was amused when another caller told him to go to WH Smith and buy a copy of the highway code to check on the CORRECT designations!!
 I regularly travel to and from Bedford down the M1, and I'm amazed at how many vehicles are nose to tail in the outside lane, whilst I'm batting along at (harrumph) MPH in the nearside lane.
Oh, and whilst I'm at it:
[rant]I wish they'd learn that the line on the slip road; is a "Give way" line, not a "feel free to barge into the traffic willy-nilly lane" if the muppet who caused the carve-up on the northbound exit of Watford Gap services on Monday morning had known that, I wouldn't have had to sit for 3 bl**dy hours in the ensuing confiture de voiture that the prat caused!!!  - driving licence from Kelloggs I presume??
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[666]

There was a discussion on the Jeremy Vine prog yesterday luchtime on the subject of Centre Lane hOGS and some stupid muppet was given airtime to justify his ridiculous habit of 'CLOGging' by saying that it was safer for him to drive in the middle lane at all times, since it "prevented anyone preparing to leave the motorway from impeding his progress, and he was not impeding anyone joining at junctions, and it is far safer than weaving from lane to lane to pass slower vehicles" hmm, yeah, great, what about all the MILES of M/way with no junction in sight???? :roll: Oh, and he INSISTED that the lanes are designated "slow" - for trucks and caravans, "cruising" - presumably for idiots like himself, and "overtaking" - I was amused when another caller told him to go to WH Smith and buy a copy of the highway code to check on the CORRECT designations!!
 I regularly travel to and from Bedford down the M1, and I'm amazed at how many vehicles are nose to tail in the outside lane, whilst I'm batting along at (harrumph) MPH in the nearside lane.
Oh, and whilst I'm at it:
[rant]I wish they'd learn that the line on the slip road; is a "Give way" line, not a "feel free to barge into the traffic willy-nilly lane" if the muppet who caused the carve-up on the northbound exit of Watford Gap services on Monday morning had known that, I wouldn't have had to sit for 3 bl**dy hours in the ensuing confiture de voiture that the prat caused!!!  - driving licence from Kelloggs I presume??
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I heard that too!
The bloke was a complete pillock! "if im doing 70mph in the middle lane why should i pull over?"

I was close to ringing in but then all of a sudden it was lunch time

Cheers

Mark

[Thrasher]

Ah the sort of idiot that refuses to get out of the way when I pull up behind towing the caravan (at 60) - and REFUSES to pull over. I hate it. Nothing I can do - bar call the police on my handsfree kit and report him ;-)

[666]

Ah the sort of idiot that refuses to get out of the way when I pull up behind towing the caravan (at 60) - and REFUSES to pull over. I hate it. Nothing I can do - bar call the police on my handsfree kit and report him ;-)

Similar sort of thing but not with a caravan...

Going away for a week earlier in the year and was traveling up the M6 (jct 5ish) in the wifes Zafira towing our little 5x3 camping trailer sat behind a wagon doin 55. I was in the middle lane with traffic to my left (wagons) and speeding traffic to the right (overtaking lane not allowed in while towing) the wagon to my left decided he wanted to be where i was and started to indicate, of course i could not move over to allow him to take my place as i was towing, the abuse i got from the air horns and all his lights flashing when he tried to pull out close to the back of the car before realising i was towing was unreal! Some wagon drivers realy need a good kicking and be taught the high way code to a better standard than they are at the moment!

Cheers

Mark

[Hobnailkelly]

I heard the Vine prog too.  Tha arrogance of some of the callers was unbelievable - as well as thier stupidity.
"I just put it in cruise control at 70mph; if anyone wants to pass me they have to use the overtaking lane.  Then they are breaking the law ..."
"The slow lane, the 'cruising' (?) lane and the overtaking lane ..."
"It's safer in the middle lane ..."
The ignorance, idiocy, pig-headed selfishness and plain shoddy standard of driving of these numpties is incomprehensible.  
By the sound of the callers most were of 'pensionable age'; many of whom probably never even passed a driving test (and boy, does it show)

Re-tests for anyone over 65 (not a full test - just a check to see if the standard of driving has fallen below the accepted level and in extreme failures, a refresher course and full test) should be introduced - along with eye and reaction time tests.  IMHO

Re: Tailgating lorries.
By driving so close up each others backside they have no forward visibility save the back end of the truck in front is nearly as bad.  Unfortunately "Ye can'nae change the laws of physics ..."  The drag created by the vehicle in front enables the second vehicle to save fuel, wear on the engine and drivetrain etc.  You will NEVER get truckers to leave a sensible, safe gap while this applies.

And don't get me started on those foreign trucks.  
They come over here loaded up with cheap fuel (extra tanks are common), driving badly or un-maintained trucks.  They sit on the wrong side of the cab so they cannot see smaller cars overtaking them.  They are lethal at roundabouts.  Drivers speak little or no English and who do not know the rules of the road in this country, let alone abide by them.  They commit countless offences but because they are not registered here it is almost impossible to trace or prosecute them.  
And don't pay road tax!
They should all have to register at the port of entry, have vehicles checked thoroughly, pay £££s per mile, and leave a bond (£10,000 would be a good starting point) which would be returned if they stayed on the right side of the law.  And were not allowed to bring in more than 20 gallons of fuel.  


Rant over.

[666]

And don't get me started on those foreign trucks.  
They come over here loaded up with cheap fuel (extra tanks are common), driving badly or un-maintained trucks.  They sit on the wrong side of the cab so they cannot see smaller cars overtaking them.  They are lethal at roundabouts.  Drivers speak little or no English and who do not know the rules of the road in this country, let alone abide by them.  They commit countless offences but because they are not registered here it is almost impossible to trace or prosecute them.  
And don't pay road tax!
They should all have to register at the port of entry, have vehicles checked thoroughly, pay £££s per mile, and leave a bond (£10,000 would be a good starting point) which would be returned if they stayed on the right side of the law.  And were not allowed to bring in more than 20 gallons of fuel.  


Rant over.

Dont work at a haulage firm by chance do you :?:  :lol:  :lol:

Cheers

Mark

[TDi90]

LOL 8)

[SimonHarwood]

Tesco DC wagons, especially Snodland, Nursling and Wheybridge are mostly driven by non uk persons.

Anyone driving on company business as an employee of a UK company should be required to have the appropriate UK driving licence.

The drivers of foreign lorries making three or more commercial journeys in this country should be required to have the appropriate UK HGV licence.

They should make rail transport compulsory for all middle and long distance freight movement.

[Dirty Gertie]

(overtaking lane not allowed in while towing)

Cheers

Mark

Hmm, yes, something else the numpties should be forcibly reminded of!!    

[Range Rover Blues]

I think everyone should be retested at least every 10 years, let alone when they get to 65, by then it's too late.
There are far too many people around who just don't know how to drive.

Personally though I think the middle lane is the least safe place to drive, you have traffic on both sides of you and no-where to swerve in an emergency.

Witht he 'van on I like to be in the N/S lane unless I'm overtaking, being alongside a truck when some nutter in a white van passes you can be a 'bit of a moment' as they always pass too close.

As for trucks driving around like they are glues together I think that's the result of having them all governed, they have no real chance of overtaking other than the painfully slow recreation of snail racing you often get to see when one is brave enough to pull out to pass another.

And yes I think it;s time the loopholes of UK companies registering their truck abroad was closed, along with the drivers. Unfortunatley we are in the EU now.