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Offline FUDDY MUCKER

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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2007, 18:55:00 »
we have an auto and it works fine
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2007, 20:03:07 »
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Griz, my LSE cruises at 30mph/1,000rpm in top,.....


my diesel manual golf does 35mph in top per 1000

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2007, 20:25:04 »
well I have deceided to get a rrc  :D over a 90 can any one reccomend which one to get 3.5 3.9 and what to look out for, I plan to get it after christmas.  Ben
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2007, 20:33:16 »
3.9 V8 MATE !!! :lol:  :lol:  I was first so I win ! :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2007, 20:39:12 »
Oh and get the cheapest one you can get hold of :wink: People asking £3000 for a twenty year old gas guzzler are having a laff ! Part's are dirt cheap, they are easy to work on and if your going to offroad it ,( and you will) It'll get damaged anyway. Oh and there are loads of stuff you can buy for them so spend any cash left on that  :twisted:   :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2007, 20:41:09 »
And petrol to drive the bloody thing   :roll:
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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2007, 20:56:39 »
depending on insurance price 3.9  :twisted: it is.  Ben
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2007, 21:01:40 »
barriesheene: what sort of mpg do you get?  Ben
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2007, 21:44:43 »
:shock:











To be honest if you just let it drive everywhere on tickover, which it will, then it's not to bad  :oops:  The problem is traffic light's  :roll:  I just cant help rocking the whole car by blipping the throttle and watching everybody's face behind  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  It's the only car I've ever had that is as much fun standing still as it is actually moving  :lol: If you get one Ben please let me know if you laugh out load the first time you rev it. I know me and everybody at work did  :P   :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I must have gone through £30 of fuel that first week just letting people sit and rev it !!!! Serious note tho ben you get about 20 to the gallon on a run, ( by the way they love motorways ! ) Bear in mind I also have a 2.5 Deisel Pajero and that does 16 - 23 alot more slowly ! :lol:  :lol:  :lol: but it will run on veg oil which the grean beast wont  :roll:
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2007, 21:54:14 »
To give you an idea of price ben I paid £800 note's for my avatar. ( 8 months tax and mot and done 2500miles in 3 years 118000miles so dont pay over the odds cos there is no need
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2007, 22:04:18 »
Ben looking at your sig you have a 2.25 petrol so in comparison the mpg probably won't change much to what your used to, despite twice the number of cylinders, 1.6 times the capacity and twice the power.

I average about 16 to 17mpg with a tired 3.5 that doesn't run right, which by the sound of it is no worse that a friend manages with his series.
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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2007, 00:53:40 »
Err, I get about 12 driving it sensibly :oops:
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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2007, 13:18:52 »
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Err, I get about 12 driving it sensibly :oops:


Isn't that on gas, though?  And is that the LSE or Blue?

My 3.9 V8 used to do about 16 mpg on petrol and 12 on gas.
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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2007, 20:52:54 »
well im hopefully going to get one in the next 2 months, what should I look out for engine wise and body wise.  Ben
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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2007, 00:22:07 »
Well perhaps more relevant to the original question, about 2 years ago I replaced the engine/box and clutch on Blue.  Well the clutch is slipping already and it's done maybe 10,000miles :shock:

Auto for me in future.
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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2007, 21:28:42 »
:(bigcry):

Today I took the VM (diesel manual) for a pay and play, as it was a bit too far away to grantee making it there and back in the V8 on its current engine. Must get the fresh engine/chassis/(suspension?) sorted on the V8 pronto, I miss the auto box off road.

However I did do 266 miles (not including the miles driven off road) on just half a tank of fuel :D
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2007, 22:02:08 »
That's interesting what MPG people are geting, my 3.9 is averaging 17MPG but I am very light on the go-go pedel The worst it has done is 13MPG and the best 22MPG

Just to give you an Idea of petrol running cost..... a full tank is about 80litres of fuel costing round about £75 a tank full (roughly!) and on one tank full i get round about 315 miles.

I keep a check on how much fuel i'm burning here's some stats on what fuel i have used from th 01/01/07 - 24/10/07

Distanced traveled: 8889 miles
Totel fuel consumed: 2447.78ltr
Cost of fuel per 100 miles £27.18
fuel consumption rate: 27.54 ltr per 100 miles

Total expense........ £2391.93


hummmmm :?
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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2007, 19:38:56 »
i love the V8 auto off road apart from the down hill engine breaking still not use to it :lol:
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« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2007, 12:55:24 »
Of course if you've fitted bigger tyres then engine braking will suffer too.
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« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2007, 15:58:30 »
so what is the best way to go down a steep hill off road? also what do you do if you fail a hill climb?  Ben
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« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2007, 16:03:06 »
Downhill - low 1st. Left foot brake while bringing up the power to take up the slack as you drop down if you are really worried.

Failed hillclimb? In what way? Stalled?
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2007, 19:37:16 »
a hill climb that you fail due to not given it enough power and you stop half way up,  Ben
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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2007, 20:43:03 »
The best torque converter gear box I have driven for controlled hill descents was on an old loading shovel, at the brough of the hill you just put it in high reverse and then let gravity pulley you down the slope, if it went to fast then all you did was accelerate :lol:
Unfortunately I don't think you can just select 3rd or 4th gear with a typical auto box to do this trick in the event of a failed hill climb. I find reverse gear and careful control of the brakes works, but its still not as good as a manual.



Cadence breaking is a very useful technique for controlling auto boxes (and manuals for that matter) off road. Basically you replicate ABS by quickly applying and then releasing the breaks repeatedly if it goes too fast.
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« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2007, 19:26:48 »
Well normaly in a failed hill climb you would run out of steam due to incorrect gear and possibly not enough momentum, eventually I guess you would stall, then stuff it in reverse, drop the clutch out, take off the brakes and crank the engine.

Well with an auto :?  sorry, wrong gear?  it'll change down under power, it won't stall at all, so either you end up spinning the wheels or the engine sits at 2,000 rpm boiling the transmission oil.

Momentum of course we all suffer from.

As with a manual, select reverse, make sure the wheels are pointing straigh then let the brakes go and the engine will help you brake.
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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2007, 13:21:06 »
I've got a manual & found it helped me out when I got my V8 got rather wet driving through a deep ford (over the bonnet  :shock: )

The engine cut out & I nearly got it out on the starter motor quite successfully, untill my mate in a RRC auto who was in front got in my way (his cut out also  :( ).

It would have got me all the way out if he wasn't in the way (thanks Mark  :cry: .......lol).

I was thinking of changing to an auto at the time but quickly changed my mind after that.

I prefer autos normally as I'm lazy & don't like changing gear, I wouldn't have a manual for any road going car/4x4 but not so sure about an offroad vehicle.
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2007, 21:38:08 »
i dont do water in the V8 dont like to get wet recovering it
V8's and H2O dont mix to well


the wife has a rr with ABS quuestion is would it cut in on a hill decent low box first :?
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« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2007, 17:59:51 »
IIRC ther ABS will not work at under 5mph, but I won't put money on that :?

I know if has to be going above 5mph before it drops out of diagnostic mode, but IIRC the traction control works as soon as you turn on the engine.

Anyway, as soon as the ABS light goes out, the traction control would be at your dispopsal.
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« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2007, 18:32:07 »
what year did they bring in traction control?  Ben
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« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2007, 18:43:56 »
91/92 IIRC, it's an add-on option to ABS
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« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2007, 21:35:24 »
how will I know if it's got traction control  :oops:    Ben
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